On 12/04/2013 04:08 AM, David Chadwick wrote:
I am happy with this as far as it goes. I would like to see it being
made more general, where domains, services and projects can also own and
name roles
Domains should be OK, but services would confuse the matter. You'd have to end up with something like LDAP

role=  domain=default,service=glance

vs

role=  domain=default,project=glance

unless we have unambiguous implicit ordering, we'll need to make it explicit, which is messy.

I'd rather do:

One segment: globally defined roles. These could also be considered roles defined in the default domain.
Two segments service defined roles in the default domain
Three Segments, service defined roles from non-default domain

To do domain scoped roles we could do something like:

domX//admin


But It seems confusing.

Perhaps a better approach for project roles is to have the rule that the default domain can show up as an empty string. Thus, project scoped roles from the default domain would be:

\glance\admin

and from a non default domain

domX\glance\admin








regards

David


On 04/12/2013 01:51, Adam Young wrote:
I've been thinking about your comment that "nested roles are confusing"


What if we backed off and said the following:


"Some role-definitions are owned by services.  If a Role definition is
owned by a service, in role assignment lists in tokens, those roles we
be prefixd by the service name.  / is a reserved cahracter and weill be
used as the divider between segments of the role definition "

That drops arbitrary nesting, and provides a reasonable namespace.  Then
a role def would look like:

"glance/admin"  for the admin role on the glance project.



In theory, we could add the domain to the namespace, but that seems
unwieldy.  If we did, a role def would then look like this


"default/glance/admin"  for the admin role on the glance project.

Is that clearer than the nested roles?



On 11/26/2013 06:57 PM, Tiwari, Arvind wrote:
Hi Adam,

Based on our discussion over IRC, I have updated the below etherpad
with proposal for nested role definition

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/service-scoped-role-definition

Please take a look @ "Proposal (Ayoung) - Nested role definitions", I
am sorry if I could not catch your idea.

Feel free to update the etherpad.

Regards,
Arvind


-----Original Message-----
From: Tiwari, Arvind
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:08 PM
To: David Chadwick; OpenStack Development Mailing List
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

Hi David,

Thanks for your time and valuable comments. I have replied to your
comments and try to explain why I am advocating to this BP.

Let me know your thoughts, please feel free to update below etherpad
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/service-scoped-role-definition

Thanks again,
Arvind

-----Original Message-----
From: David Chadwick [mailto:d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 12:12 PM
To: Tiwari, Arvind; OpenStack Development Mailing List
Cc: Henry Nash; ayo...@redhat.com; dolph.math...@gmail.com; Yee, Guang
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

Hi Arvind

I have just added some comments to your blueprint page

regards

David


On 19/11/2013 00:01, Tiwari, Arvind wrote:
Hi,

Based on our discussion in design summit , I have redone the service_id
binding with roles BP
<https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/serviceid-binding-with-role-definition>.

I have added a new BP (link below) along with detailed use case to
support this BP.

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/service-scoped-role-definition


Below etherpad link has some proposals for Role REST representation and
pros and cons analysis

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/service-scoped-role-definition

Please take look and let me know your thoughts.

It would be awesome if we can discuss it in tomorrow's meeting.

Thanks,

Arvind

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