On 21/06/17 02:08, Jay Pipes wrote:

On 06/20/2017 09:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
Does "service VM" need to be a first-class thing?  Akanda creates
them, using a service user. The VMs are tied to a "router" which
is the billable resource that the user understands and interacts with
through the API.

Frankly, I believe all of these types of services should be built as applications that run on OpenStack (or other) infrastructure. In other words, they should not be part of the infrastructure itself.

There's really no need for a user of a DBaaS to have access to the host or hosts the DB is running on. If the user really wanted that, they would just spin up a VM/baremetal server and install the thing themselves.


Yes, I think this area is where some hard thinking would be rewarded. I recall when I first met Trove, in my mind I expected to be 'carving off a piece of database'...and was a bit surprised to discover that it (essentially) leveraged Nova VM + OS + DB (no criticism intended - just saying I was surprised). Of course after delving into how it worked I realized that it did make sense to make use of the various Nova things (schedulers etc)....*but* now we are thinking about re-architecting (plus more options exist now), it would make sense to revisit this area.

Best wishes

Mark

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