On 9/23/2017 10:11 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
Excerpts from Huang Zhiteng's message of 2017-09-23 10:00:00 +0800:
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Zhipeng Huang <zhipengh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Unfortunately I know better on this matter and it is not the matter of topic
dispute as many people on this thread who has been disturbed and annoyed by
the padding/trolling.
So yes I'm sticking with stupid because it hurts the OpenStack community as
a whole and hurts the reputation of the dev community from my country which
in large are great people with good hearts and skills.
I'm not giving even an inch of the benefit of doubt to these padding
activities and people behind it.
Hi Zhipeng,
Not sure how much you have been involved in the dev community in
China, but it's now a good time to talk to those companies (in public
or private) and ask them to stop encourage their developers to submit
such changes.
I would prefer to set up a system where we can have those sorts of
conversations in private, to encourage people to contribute
constructively instead of shaming them.
Doug
+2
This, in some cases, may be due to people trying to pad their numbers.
Perhaps it is just people who do not yet know the best way to help out
and want to do something.
I agree with Doug's comments about this needing to be done in private
and with Ildiko's comments on providing mentoring. This is something I
will consider as I put together the on-boarding education for the Sydney
Summit.
From a Cinder standpoint I have been trying to be inclusive and not
block things unless it just appears to be blatantly pointless. Trying to
keep on the side of community inclusion.
Jay
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Paul Belanger <pabelan...@redhat.com>
wrote:
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:26:09AM +0800, Zhipeng Huang wrote:
Let's not forget the epic fail earlier on the "contribution.rst fix"
that
almost melt down the community CI system.
For any companies that are doing what Matt mentioned, please be aware
that
the dev community of the country you belong to is getting hurt by your
stupid activity.
Stop patch trolling and doing something meaningful.
Sorry, but I found this comment over the line. Just because you disagree
with
the $topic at hand, doesn't mean you should default to calling it
'stupid'. Give
somebody the benefit of not knowing any better.
This is not a good example of encouraging anybody to contribute to the
project.
-Paul
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Matt Riedemann <mriede...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I just wanted to highlight to people that there seems to be a series
of
garbage patches in various projects [1] which are basically doing
things
like fixing a single typo in a code comment, or very narrowly changing
http
to https in links within docs.
Also +1ing ones own changes.
I've been trying to snuff these out in nova, but I see it's basically
a
pattern widespread across several projects.
This is the boilerplate comment I give with my -1, feel free to employ
it
yourself.
"Sorry but this isn't really a useful change. Fixing typos in code
comments when the context is still clear doesn't really help us, and
mostly
seems like looking for padding stats on stackalytics. It's also a
drain on
our CI environment.
If you fixed all of the typos in a single module, or in user-facing
documentation, or error messages, or something in the logs, or
something
that actually doesn't make sense in code comments, then maybe, but
this
isn't one of those things."
I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but this is annoying to the point I
felt
the need to say something publicly.
[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/author:%255E.*inspur.*
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Matt
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