Hi Jimmy,
from the GUI I'll get this link:
https://translate.openstack.org/rest/file/translation/edge-computing/pot-translation/de/po?docId=cloud-edge-computing-beyond-the-data-center
paper version are only in container whitepaper:
https://translate.openstack.org/rest/file/translation/leveraging-containers-openstack/paper/de/po?docId=leveraging-containers-and-openstack
In general there is no group named papers
kind regards
Frank
Am 2018-07-30 17:06, schrieb Jimmy McArthur:
Frank,
We're getting a 404 when looking for the pot file on the Zanata API:
https://translate.openstack.org/rest/file/translation/papers/papers/de/po?docId=edge-computing
As a result, we can't pull the po files. Any idea what might be
happening?
Seeing the same thing with both papers...
Thank you,
Jimmy
Frank Kloeker wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
Korean and German version are now done on the new format. Can you
check publishing?
thx
Frank
Am 2018-07-19 16:47, schrieb Jimmy McArthur:
Hi all -
Follow up on the Edge paper specifically:
https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/edge-computing/pot-translation/documents?dswid=-3192
This is now available. As I mentioned on IRC this morning, it should
be VERY close to the PDF. Probably just needs a quick review.
Let me know if I can assist with anything.
Thank you to i18n team for all of your help!!!
Cheers,
Jimmy
Jimmy McArthur wrote:
Ian raises some great points :) I'll try to address below...
Ian Y. Choi wrote:
Hello,
When I saw overall translation source strings on container
whitepaper, I would infer that new edge computing whitepaper
source strings would include HTML markup tags.
One of the things I discussed with Ian and Frank in Vancouver is the
expense of recreating PDFs with new translations. It's
prohibitively expensive for the Foundation as it requires design
resources which we just don't have. As a result, we created the
Containers whitepaper in HTML, so that it could be easily updated
w/o working with outside design contractors. I indicated that we
would also be moving the Edge paper to HTML so that we could prevent
that additional design resource cost.
On the other hand, the source strings of edge computing whitepaper
which I18n team previously translated do not include HTML markup
tags, since the source strings are based on just text format.
The version that Akihiro put together was based on the Edge PDF,
which we unfortunately didn't have the resources to implement in the
same format.
I really appreciate Akihiro's work on RST-based support on
publishing translated edge computing whitepapers, since
translators do not have to re-translate all the strings.
I would like to second this. It took a lot of initiative to work on
the RST-based translation. At the moment, it's just not usable for
the reasons mentioned above.
On the other hand, it seems that I18n team needs to investigate on
translating similar strings of HTML-based edge computing whitepaper
source strings, which would discourage translators.
Can you expand on this? I'm not entirely clear on why the HTML based
translation is more difficult.
That's my point of view on translating edge computing whitepaper.
For translating container whitepaper, I want to further ask the
followings since *I18n-based tools*
would mean for translators that translators can test and publish
translated whitepapers locally:
- How to build translated container whitepaper using original
Silverstripe-based repository?
https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/tools.html describes well
how to build translated artifacts for RST-based OpenStack
repositories
but I could not find the way how to build translated container
whitepaper with translated resources on Zanata.
This is a little tricky. It's possible to set up a local version of
the OpenStack website
(https://github.com/OpenStackweb/openstack-org/blob/master/installation.md).
However, we have to manually ingest the po files as they are
completed and then push them out to production, so that wouldn't do
much to help with your local build. I'm open to suggestions on how
we can make this process easier for the i18n team.
Thank you,
Jimmy
With many thanks,
/Ian
Jimmy McArthur wrote on 7/17/2018 11:01 PM:
Frank,
I'm sorry to hear about the displeasure around the Edge paper. As
mentioned in a prior thread, the RST format that Akihiro worked
did not work with the Zanata process that we have been using with
our CMS. Additionally, the existing EDGE page is a PDF, so we had
to build a new template to work with the new HTML whitepaper
layout we created for the Containers paper. I outlined this in the
thread " [OpenStack-I18n] [Edge-computing] [Openstack-sigs] Edge
Computing Whitepaper Translation" on 6/25/18 and mentioned we
would be ready with the template around 7/13.
We completed the work on the new whitepaper template and then put
out the pot files on Zanata so we can get the po language files
back. If this process is too cumbersome for the translation team,
I'm open to discussion, but right now our entire translation
process is based on the official OpenStack Docs translation
process outlined by the i18n team:
https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/en_GB/tools.html
Again, I realize Akihiro put in some work on his own proposing the
new translation type. If the i18n team is moving to this format
instead, we can work on redoing our process.
Please let me know if I can clarify further.
Thanks,
Jimmy
Frank Kloeker wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
permission was added for you and Sebastian. The Container
Whitepaper is on the Zanata frontpage now. But we removed Edge
Computing whitepaper last week because there is a kind of
displeasure in the team since the results of translation are
still not published beside Chinese version. It would be nice if
we have a commitment from the Foundation that results are
published in a specific timeframe. This includes your
requirements until the translation should be available.
thx Frank
Am 2018-07-16 17:26, schrieb Jimmy McArthur:
Sorry, I should have also added... we additionally need
permissions so
that we can add the a new version of the pot file to this
project:
https://translate.openstack.org/project/view/edge-computing/versions?dswid=-7835
Thanks!
Jimmy
Jimmy McArthur wrote:
Hi all -
We have both of the current whitepapers up and available for
translation. Can we promote these on the Zanata homepage?
https://translate.openstack.org/project/view/leveraging-containers-openstack?dswid=5684
https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/edge-computing/master/documents?dswid=5684
Thanks all!
Jimmy
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