On Jan 16, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah 
<chmo...@enovance.com<mailto:chmo...@enovance.com>> wrote:


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Chris Jones 
<c...@tenshu.net<mailto:c...@tenshu.net>> wrote:
Once a common library is in place, is there any intention to (or resistance 
against) collapsing the clients into a single project or even a single command 
(a la busybox)?


that's what openstackclient is here for 
https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient

After speaking with people working on OSC and looking at the code base in 
depth; I don’t think this addresses what Chris is implying: OSC wraps the 
individual CLIs built by each project today, instead of the inverse: a common 
backend that the individual CLIs can wrap - the latter is an important 
distinction as currently, building a single binary install of OSC for say, 
Windows is difficult given the dependency tree incurred by each of the wrapped 
CLIs, difference in dependencies, structure, etc.

Also, wrapping a series of inconsistent back end Client classes / functions / 
methods means that the layer that presents a consistent user interface (OSC) to 
the user is made more complex juggling names/renames/commands/etc.

In the inverted case of what we have today (single backend); as a developer of 
user interfaces (CLIs, Applications, Web apps (horizon)) you would be able to:

from openstack.common.api import Auth
from openstack.common.api import Compute
from openstack.common.util import cli_tools

my_cli = cli_tools.build(…)

def my_command(cli):
compute = Compute(Auth(cli.tentant…, connect=True))
compute.list_flavors()

This would mean that *even if the individual clients needed or wanted to keep 
their specific CLIs, they would be able to use a not “least common denominator” 
back end (each service can have a rich common.api.compute.py or 
api.compute/client.py and extend where needed. However tools like horizon / 
openstackclient can choose not to leverage the “power user/operator/admin” 
components and present a simplified user interface.

I’m working on a wiki page + blueprint to brainstorm how we could accomplish 
this based off of what work is in flight today (see doug’s linked blueprint) 
and sussing out a layout / API strawman for discussion.

Some of the additions that came out of this email threads and others:

1. Common backend should provide / offer caching utilities
2. Auth retries need to be handled by the auth object, and each sub-project 
delegates to the auth object to manage that.
3. Verified Mocks / Stubs / Fakes must be provided for proper unit testing

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