> The point I've been making is 
> that by the TC continuing to bless only the Ceilometer project as the 
> OpenStack Way of Metering, I think we do a disservice to our users by 
> picking a winner in a space that is clearly still unsettled.
can we avoid using the word 'blessed' -- it's extremely vague and seems 
controversial. from what i know, no one is being told project x's services are 
the be all end all and based on experience, companies (should) know this. i've 
worked with other alternatives even though i contribute to ceilometer.> Totally 
agree with Jay here, I know people who gave up on trying to
> get any official project around deployment because they were told they
> had to do it under the TripleO umbrellafrom the pov of a project that seems 
> to be brought up constantly and maybe it's my naivety, i don't really 
> understand the fascination with branding and the stigma people have placed on 
> non-'openstack'/stackforge projects. it can't be a legal thing because i've 
> gone through that potential mess. also, it's just as easy to contribute to 
> 'non-openstack' projects as 'openstack' projects (even easier if we're 
> honest). 
in my mind, the goal of the programs is to encourage collaboration from 
projects with the same focus (whether they overlap or not). that way, even if 
there's differences in goal/implementation, there's a common space between them 
so users can easily decide. also, hopefully with the collaboration, it'll help 
teams realise that certain problems have already been solved and certain parts 
of code can be shared rather than having project x, y, and z all working in 
segregated streams, racing as fast as they can to claim supremacy (how you'd 
decide is another mess) and then n number of months/years later we decide to 
throw away (tens/hundreds) of thousands of person hours of work because we just 
created massive projects that overlap.
suggestion: maybe it's better to drop the branding codenames and just refer to 
everything as their generic feature? ie. identity, telemetry, orchestration, 
etc...
cheers,
gord
                                          
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