On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Anne Gentle <a...@openstack.org> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Joe Gordon <joe.gord...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Thierry Carrez <thie...@openstack.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Jay Pipes wrote: >>> > On 10/29/2014 09:07 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: >>> >> On 10/29/2014 06:46 PM, Rochelle Grober wrote: >>> >>> Any chance we could use the opening to move either the Refstack >>> >>> session or the logging session from their current joint (and >>> >>> conflicting) time (15:40)? QA really would be appreciated at both. >>> >>> And I'd really like to be at both. I'd say the Refstack one would go >>> >>> better in the debug slot, as the API stuff is sort of related to the >>> >>> logging. Switching with one of the 14:50 sessions might also work. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just hoping. I really want great participation at all of these >>> >>> sessions. >>> >> >>> >> The "gate debugging" session is most likely going to be dropped at >>> this >>> >> point. I don't see a big problem with moving the refstack one to that >>> >> slot (the first time). >>> >> >>> >> Anyone else have a strong opinion on this? >>> > >>> > Sounds good to me. >>> >>> Sounds good. >>> >> >> With the "gate debugging" session being dropped due to being the wrong >> format to be productive, we now need a new session. After looking over the >> etherpad of proposed cross project sessions I think there is one glaring >> omission: the SDK. In the "Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise" thread [0] having a >> real SDK was one of the top answers. Many folks had great responses that >> clearly explained the issues end users are having [1]. As for who could >> lead a session like this I have two ideas: Monty Taylor, who had one of the >> most colorful explanations to why this is so critical, or Dean Troyer, one >> of the few people actually working on this right now. I think it would be >> embarrassing if we had no cross project session on SDKs, since there >> appears to be a consensus that the making life easier for the end user is a >> high priority. >> >> > There are many discussion sessions related to SDKs, they just aren't all > in the cross-project slots. Plus these don't require an ATC badge > (something users may not have). > If we want to make sure the end user has a more uniform experience, having the individual python-*client discussions isn't sufficient. Also, the issue is not lack of user feedback, the issue here is more of a lack of people implementing the feedback. > Application Ecosystem Working Group > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Application_Ecosystem_Working_Group > > Monday 2:30 (Degas) > > Thursday 1:40 (Hyatt) > These sessions have pretty broad scopes, and I don't think a discussion on SDKs here is enough, since the issue isn't a lack of feedback. > I think we can talk about the real SDK at one of these. > > There's also: > > Getting Started with the OpenStack Python SDK > > Monday 4:20 (Room 242AB) > This isn't a a design summit session, so it doesn't really make sense to do future design work here. > Anne > > The current catch is, the free slot is now at 15:40, so it would compete >> with 'How to Tackle Technical Debt in Kilo,' a session which I expect to be >> very popular with the same people who would be interested in attending a >> SDK session. >> >> [0] >> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/044766.html >> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/6cWQG9oNsr >> >> >>> -- >>> Thierry Carrez (ttx) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >
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