Kevin, I agree with your break out, except I think you are missing a 3rd 
category.   100's of public cloud support specialists, developers, and product 
management folks use the CLI without scripts every day in supporting the 
OpenStack services and customers.  Using and interacting with the CLI is how 
folks learn the OpenStack services. The CLIs can be painful for those users 
when they actually want to learn the service, not shell script around it.

-Keith

From: <Fox>, Kevin M <kevin....@pnnl.gov<mailto:kevin....@pnnl.gov>>
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Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Should logs be deleted when we delete an 
app?

-1. There are developers and there are users/admins. The former tend to write 
in python. the latter, shell.

Thanks,
Kevin
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From: Keith Bray [keith.b...@rackspace.com<mailto:keith.b...@rackspace.com>]
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Should logs be deleted when we delete an 
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Isn't that what the SDK is for?   To chip in with a Product Management type hat 
on, I'd think the CLI should be primarily focused on user experience 
interaction, and the SDK should be primarily targeted for developer automation 
needs around programmatically interacting with the service.   So, I would argue 
that the target market for the CLI should not be the developer who wants to 
script.

-Keith

From: Adrian Otto <adrian.o...@rackspace.com<mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com>>
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Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Should logs be deleted when we delete an 
app?

Interactive choices like that one can make it more confusing for developers who 
want to script with the CLI. My preference would be to label the app delete 
help text to clearly indicate that it deletes logs
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