On 05/24/2016 11:13 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Flavio Percoco <fla...@redhat.com > <mailto:fla...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > So, just to make sure I'm making myself clear, I believe we should > go with > option #2 in Thierry's comment from May 23 11:3 on this[0] review. > While I'm not > entirely opposed to #1 I think #2 is better for us at this point > in time. Here's > a quote of Thierry's comment: > > "To summarize my view on this, I think our only two options > here are (1) > approve the addition of golang (with caveats on where it > should be used > to try to minimize useless churn), or (2) precise the line > between > 'openstack projects' and 'dependencies of openstack > projects' in a way > that makes it obvious that components requiring such > optimization as to > require golang (or any other such language) should be > developed as > dependencies" > > My main motivation is that I still believe option #1 will have a > negative impact > on the community and, perhaps more importantly, I don't think > it'll help > reaching the goal we've been talking about in this thread. Many > people have been > asking for focus and I think #2 will do that, whereas #1 will open > the doors to > a different set of problems and complexities that won't help with > keeping the focus. > > > Option #2 without the followup of actually evaluating and removing > things that do not fit is really Option #3, do nothing. Which is what > I am afraid will happen. No renewed focus, no growth, no goal. > > On the language front, since we want focus, the exiting decisions re > languages should also be part of that re-evaluation for focus. It > sure feels like JavaScript is in exactly the same boat as folks fear > Golang will be here (a special case, domain-specific, division of > community (ask Horizon devs)). And Bash, well, that isn't even a > language.
Just $0.02 - if you want to support a language, then it would seem like having a full SDK for that language would be a first step so that people inside and outside the community can use the language in a supported manner. With an SDK, it seems like everyone will just reinvent the wheel. That would also seem to further the goal of using the language as the community intends - whether for services, clients, or UI - since the SDK would be targeted appropriately. If no SDK, then special casing would seem to the proper place. Again, $0.02 Ben
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