On 02/02/2017 05:02 PM, Edgar Magana wrote:
Jay,

I am including the WG chairs to make sure they answers your questions and 
addresses your concerns.
In Barcelona the UC asked exactly the same questions and recommended to the 
co-chairs of the LCOO WG to work with the existing WG to identify overlapping 
activities and either to work together or go ahead with the WG if there were 
not overlapping on goals and deliverables.

Was there any follow-on from that request from the UC?

I will let the co-chairs to follow up yours questions. BTW. I do not think this 
topic should be posted in the openstack-dev mailing list. So, I will BCC it.

Sure, no problem.

Andrew and Jamey,

Please, address these questions. Let’s work all together to make sure that we 
have all groups aligned and coordinated.

Thanks, Edgar, appreciated. Andrew and Jamey, please do let me know if you would like me to rephrase or elaborate on any questions. Happy to do so. I genuinely want to see alignment with other groups in this effort.

Best,
-jay

Thanks,

Edgar

On 2/2/17, 12:14 PM, "Jay Pipes" <jaypi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    I was told about this group today. I have a few questions. Hopefully
    someone from this team can illuminate me with some answers.

    1) What is the purpose of this group? The wiki states that the team
    "aims to define the use cases and identify and prioritise the
    requirements which are needed to deploy, manage, and run services on top
    of OpenStack. This work includes identifying functional gaps, creating
    blueprints, submitting and reviewing patches to the relevant OpenStack
    projects, contributing to working those items, tracking their completion."

    What is the difference between the LCOO and the following existing
    working groups?

      * Large Deployment Team
      * Massively Distributed Team
      * Product Working Group
      * Telco/NFV Working Group

    2) According to the wiki page, only companies that are "Multi-Cloud
    Operator[s] and/or Network Service Provider[s]" are welcome in this
    team. Why is the team called "Large Contributing OpenStack Operators" if
    it's only for Telcos? Further, if this is truly only for Telcos, why
    isn't the Telco/NFV working group appropriate?

    3) Under the "Guiding principles" section of the above wiki, the top
    principle is "Align with the OpenStack Foundation". If this is the case,
    why did the group move its content to the closed Atlassian Confuence
    platform? Why does the group have a set of separate Slack channels
    instead of using the OpenStack mailing lists and IRC channels? Why is
    the OPNFV Jira used for tracking work items for the LCOO agenda?

    See 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.openstack.org_wiki_Gluon_Tasks-2DOcata&d=DwICAg&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=haOSpIhsa6KyDvuhRFigFVTLrTJxJ1Zv3kfm0JwTTtY&s=kntt00JEwpizTxQus4U9FhnwF_7WicJ7oRncGmkYPGc&e=
  for examples.

    4) I see a lot of agenda items around projects like Gluon, Craton,
    Watcher, and Blazar. I don't see any concrete ideas about talking with
    the developers of the key infrastructure services that OpenStack is
    built around. How does the LCOO plan on reaching out to the developers
    of the long-standing OpenStack projects like Nova, Neutron, Cinder, and
    Keystone to drive their shared agenda?

    Thanks for reading and (hopefully) answering.

    -jay

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