* Hans Witvliet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Nov 25. 2006 02:42]: > Perhaps i should enter it as a requested enhancement ;-) > > When wanting a bare minimal system, (by selecting text-mode only) > i expect a real-minimum, however....
We had this discussion on opensuse-factory before ;-) Real-minimum means something different to everyone you're asking. I'd like to encourage all of you to continue the pattern discussion and help finding building blocks. > > a) nice be not requested: > like tcpdump. > This is something a often select, but it should be included into the > catagorie of "power-tools for experienced users", not default. Which is probably still to coarse - "tcp/ip network debugging" is probably more appropriate. > > b) not wanted. > If i want printing, i will select them: > cups, cups-drivers, cups-libs, gutenberg, yats2-print should belong to a > sub-thread.... Which set of packages are _really_ needed for printing ? > > c) waste of time/disk space > hardware scan should know what kind of hardware there is. > Why of why is yast2-scanner, yast2-irda, xfs-tools, dos-stuff > installed???? Thats part of the default install on purpose - have all configuration tools present which pull in additional packages. Its a usability compromise. > > My MOBO does not have a sound-card: so why do i get alsa? > (new sound-thread) So we need a sound pattern, with which packages ? > > Reasoning is this. > Either if i select a packages manually, or it it gets installed by > default, i have to claryfy its presence with an security officer. > Same if its gets installed by default, i i decide to get rid of it. One of the enhancements planned for the future is to document the "why?" of installed packages better. Pattern - if used as functional building blocks - can help here as they relate packages to functionalities. > > I rather have it not installed unless the it is really needed, 'Really needed' is probably just glibc and bash - for a minimal chroot environment. It always depends what you want to do with the system, and thats different for everyone. Klaus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
