-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To summarize what has been discussed during the IRC meeting: 1) It is unclear whether the greeter can be modified at this point, late in the 10.3 release cycle. Translators don't like the idea, will probably stay as it is now.
2) A *separate* "get help" desktop icon will be added, dedicated to getting online help to avoid suffering the dimension limitations of the greeter. 3) The label of the desktop icon is not decided. "Get help online" is a proposal. 4) The desktop icon will point to http://help.opensuse.org/, open konqueror or firefox when clicking on it, and content will hence be kept online. 5) Those help pages not being a local resource isn't an issue really, as all the ways to get help require an Internet connection anyway. 6) Being online, the resources are much easier to maintain and won't get blocked by the 10.3 feature freeze. 7) The HTML/CSS/PNG/... for http://help.opensuse.org will be maintained in a Subversion repository at Novell Forge: https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/opensuse/trunk/infrastructure/help.o.o 8) I will commit the current state of my implementation there this evening, after a little cleanup -- it's heavily based on the work of Francis Giannaros (just adds a second, intermediary screen for each option to provide some basic information about IRC, about web forums, etc...) 9) The current mockup can be seen here: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/greeter/ (note that only the "Chat & Help" part is implemented as of now) 10) There's a bug to keep track of tasks and progress: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300795 11) IRC meeting transcript on the topic is here: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2007-08-15/transcript#Q_.26_A:_Greeter_and_.22get_help.22_icon And we'll probably be looking for translators as the translation team is already quite busy finishing 10.3. We also still have to discuss how to internationalize the pages. Several options are available: - - use browser language detection + have flags to switch the language on the HTML pages - - make different links depending on the language in the .desktop file (proposal by Stephan Binner): URL = http://help.opensuse.org/en/ URL[de] = http://help.opensuse.org/de/ URL[fr] = http://help.opensuse.org/fr/ ... IMHO, browser detection works fine. Question is what the default language of Konqueror and Firefox are (when it hasn't been set explicitly by the user in the browser configuration). Is it $LANG ? Or does it just default to en_US ? We probably won't be able to avoid little flags (or links) to explicitly choose the language though. Also, using server-side language detection from the browser's request avoids having to update the desktop link when another translation is added (because it's all kept on server side). cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGw/t/r3NMWliFcXcRAtAJAKC8Pgylx1B9Vg8nF79AjJ6Jy/cf8ACePYWY 5DsA9xSa8wyhJsbvumtB8W8= =Ur4t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]