>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 6:32 PM, Martin Schlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: > Den Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:27:22 skrev Gregg Nicholas: >> > I reopened >> > [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems >> > [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64 >> > to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system >> > without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes. >> > >> I have to agree with Andreas Vetter. Firefox/java/flash should simply >> work, without manual intervention, on any gui installation (even x86_64). >> In my opinion, the decision to go with only OSS solutions - even though >> they don't work right - is likely to push end-users toward other >> distributions. > > As it can be seen from my bugreports that avetter reopened I share the > opinion > that 32-bit Firefox should be shipped. Especially since software.opensuse.org > > has no "warning" about downloading the x86_64 version. > > However I don't think the decision has anything to do with ideology. When > people install x86_64 they don't want 32-bit Firefox - they want to run full > 64-bit so they can enjoy all the imaginatory performance improvements. Now we > > even have 64-bit OOo.. > > Flash works with nspluginwrapper with 64-bit Firefox - I don't know how many > people actually come across java webapplets - personally I only need it for > homebanking - but that of course is enough to make me install 32-bit > Firefox - which I tested and "downgrading" ran without incident, except for > me having to remove classpath-webplugin - and that issue will be fixed.
I agree completely: flash works flawless with the nspluginwrapper and Java is one of the things I never need on a website (even my bank webinterfaces don't use it anymore). Also think about other impacts having a 32bit firefox imposes: I'm maintaining packages of a not to be called by name Video Client, and we offer a plugin for Firefox. Of course, when installing 64bit Video Client, the 64bit plugin get's installed. Having a 32bit version of Firefox forces the user also to 'downgrade' a lot of other applications. I think such cases have to be clear for everybody: if you need Java and you really can't live without it, go for 32bit. Yast/whatever tool and the Documentation should offer an easy way for this. And then it should clearly be noted that many other things might get broken. For those users, a pure 32bit system might be better suitable then (or maybe a VM) Greetings, Dominique TMF is a global management and accounting outsourcing firm with 73 offices in 57 countries and over 2,000 professionals (2007). TMF is expanding rapidly throughout the world. Learn more about our unique network and our services and visit our website at www.tmf-group.com. The information contained in this e-mail communication is confidential and solely intended for the person to whom it is addressed. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to notify the sender and to destroy the original e-mail communication. TMF is neither liable for the correct and complete transmission of the information contained in this e-mail communication nor for any delay in its receipt. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked for the presence of computer viruses. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
