Hello Stefan,

Thank you sounds good to me.

Best,
Maurizio Galli (MauG)

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:35 PM Stefan Seyfried
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Maurizio,
>
> Am 25.10.18 um 12:10 schrieb Maurizio Galli:
> > Hello Stefan,
> > Thank you for your answer.
> >
> > The history of the software selection is "I took over what Guido
> >> Berhoerster left behind and try to not break anthing by avoiding touching
> >> things as far as possible" :-)
> >
> >
> > I also don't wanna break anything of course :P.
>
> I didn't want to imply that. It was more a "I did not touch patterns when I 
> could avoid it, because it does not affect
> me anyway" :-)
>
> > I don't think changing the
> > programs will do so, as long as apps keep being maintained as it's
> > currently the case. However, if the pattern is changed, users relying on
> > the pattern and recommended packages will eventually get the new software
> > installed with `zypper dup`. This has to be taken into account and maybe
> > done gradually rather than all at once, as it may annoy somebody.
> > Therefore your suggestion to bring this discussion to Factory could be a
> > good idea.
>
> I think a majority of TW users use "--no-recommends", but we can announce on 
> -factory what packages we recommend to install.
>
> > I also filed a Bugzilla request because I was suggested to do so on
> > Discord: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112889
> > I don't know how useful this report is as the pattern is maintained in
> > X11:xfce. Thus I believe it's up to you and the other maintainers to  make
> > the call on its changes.
>
> I think so, too :-)
>
> > How can I link this thread to the Factory mailing list?
>
> Don't. Just announce on factory what you are going to do:
>
> "I'll submit an updated xfce-patterns package, with these changes...".
>
> Don't request discussion (people will discuss anyway ;-)), but just state it 
> as fact.
>
> If a discussion starts, we can see what we can take from that, if not just go 
> ahead with your changes.
>
> Then submit your changes in OBS and I and / or Takashi will review them 
> (note: I'm on vacation next week, so my latency
> will be high) and accept them.
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Stefan Seyfried
>
> "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over
>  public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman
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