Interesting idea but Windows is not Linux .. but then this could also work . People know Windows & know people to help them if they have problems .. Windows is fast .. reliable (XP with firewall is absolutly fine).. is supported so why switch .. if it aint broke why try to fix it .. by going into an unknown & complicated (yes its not complicated .. but I wont go through all these things ... this will not be a flaming war) terretory. So at the moment .. people switch to Linux when they are really sick of Windows... they need to .. are in contact with Linux cause of work & there know it CAN (can not does ... driver probs et cetera) work ... are very curious ... are "server" .. geeks .. have a business interest in it ... have a Linux system which is properly supported (as in propiatry proper support where the end-user does not have to be a geek or computer nut(not trying to offend anyone)) . But for the Joe - Jimmy - Hans - or whateva average user it doesnt yet make enough sense to switch . With more & more businesses switching their staff to Linux .. driver-providers might just properly start supporting Linux as well (hopefully the current Linux infrastructure is making this as simple as possible to do) making it easier for X - average to switch. Hiding system/admin entyys in menus is a desktop environment thing ... I think GNOME has something coming along that line .. but hiding inappropiare or inaccesible items should be done as much as possible oviously as long as it makes sense. Linux is an open-source product .. programs change all the time ... which is not the case with Windows. On a Linux desktop the 3rd party or whateva its called software ... such as Real-Player & a Photoshop install etc ... is very limited making it easier for Distros to constantly come up with new versions ... nobody needs to figure out strange hacks to allow some strange program to still run when the OS is updated (okay not completly true .. & my knowledge is quite limited ) .. & with Redhat Server or SLES the big products are certified for these OSes ... cause they guarantee a certain standard etc. over a certain time. Fact is open-source doesnt stop changing & developing according to set dates & deadlines ... its a million times easier in that way for Microsoft ... but they on the other hand must manage to get all the designed for XP progs to work ... there will allways be a new version of XYZ - program in the open-source community. I dont think the answer neccessarily can be components ... actually the KLICK thing could if everybody stands behind that be very very powerful & influencial ... as far as I get it ... each package (just like OSX) is completly in its own world & has very few (hopefully) dependencies & can also then in itself be very optimised ... click & run infrastructure (might add more overhead than neccessary ?) for all the big GUI progs & the distro specific stuff would then be the base system & system utilities ... I quite like the idea ... very similiar then to Windows where there is the base system & everything els eis extra . 3rd parties could then just provide such packages to the end-user . A lot of the sytem could be like building blocks which could be combined to give different configurations (server .. desktop .. workstation....etc) ... Flexible & predictable hopefully.
Actually I just reread what U wrote .. yeah Im suggesting very much the same I think ... there would have to be someone or something which would control the Slick & Run infrastructure. Like the kernel development but in this case for the desktop:-) . Full-Stop I ve written too much . Thanx for reading if ye made it this far . "C.C.Chakkaradeep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, ............. After using Linux for some 2 years, and trying Linux From Scratch(LFS)/Customizing Knoppix,Slackware/Gentoo and other small stuffs, what i found is, there is no common STANDARDS followed except for the filesystem & directory hierarchy. You can even find each distribution having its own directory structure nowadays.Each one is having their own packages. .................. First and foremost, why SuSE??...well, i think SuSE has given importance in GUI and equally comparable with Microsoft Windows for GUI.......... PMS === here i think RPM/Debian are becoming the common standard in the linux industry and whereever u go, u will find your package either in RPM/Debian.But wait?..is there a SINGLE CLICK install??...yeah i have read about the Klick which SuSE is trying out.Thats an amazing thing. ........ Package everything as components (Componentized Linux - http://componentizedlinux.org). So whatever u consider that forms the base system (with dependencies),package it and then give applications as separate compenents, so now if u want to un-install the package(here Component), it is easy!....and just think over...thats what Windows is doing!...So here the dependency problem might not arise and this would get implemeted only if the release cycle is planned properly.Ofcourse there has to be some way to update the Base System :-). So,it would be like this, Package the Base Component and Applications Components, give it to the user.... System Updation =========== i think the above said idea would deal with System updation also.... Menu System ========= Ok, the menu system right now in Linux is, u group all the applications in their Service Groups.This is ok for a linux user but think of the new user, they will feel uncomfortable.So i think , there should be some easy to use Menu System for a new user so that he is not confused with what all applications have been installed and also the administrator menu items should not be displayed while a normal user has logged in which would increase the security even more! Well, people might ask me that telling things would not work out and have to do something!..yeah here we are a team where we are working with LFS and trying to make a distribution exactly as what i discussed above.But till now i havent got into any discussion with any forums about these....and am also happy if i can try implementing these on SuSE but how??.... with regards, C.C.Chakkaradeep --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos