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The Wednesday 2007-01-31 at 01:02 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > Nowhere did I claim, nor even hint, that «that speex and vorbis are not > > violating someone's patent». That's your saying. > > > > That's exactly my point. I've read patent claims against those two formats > on the web in the past, as well as the patent claims for the encoding > algorithms used to > encode flac. Well, again acording to the wikipedia, that's just FUD. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis#Licensing> | ... The Xiph.Org Foundation states that Vorbis, like all its | developments, is completely free from the licensing or patent issues | raised by other proprietary formats such as MP3. Although Xiph.Org | states it has conducted a patent search that supports its claims, | outside parties (notably engineers working on rival formats) have | expressed doubt that Vorbis is free of patented technology.[4] | | Xiph.Org maintains that it was privately issued a legal opinion subject | to attorney/client privilege. It has not released an official statement | on the patent status of Vorbis, pointing out that such a statement is | technically impossible due to the number and scope of patents in | existence and the questionable validity of many of them. Such issues | cannot be resolved outside of a court of law. Some Vorbis proponents | have derided the uncertainty concerning the patent status as "FUD": | misinformation spread by large companies with a vested interest. | | Ogg Vorbis is supported by several large digital audio player | manufacturers such as Samsung, Rio, Neuros Technology, Cowon, and | iRiver. Many feel that the growing support for the Vorbis codec within | the industry supports their interpretation of its patent status, as | multinational corporations are unlikely to distribute software with | questionable legal status. The same could be said about its growing | popularity in other commercial enterprises like mainstream computer | games. > So it seems to me its unsafe to assume, merely because the current rush to > ogg is in vouge, > that any real escape from this patent nonsense is possible. To say that is probably similar to M$ claims of Linux violating their pattents. Just FUD, unless they prove it in court. Anyway... software pattents are nonsensical :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFwHLmtTMYHG2NR9URAkZEAJkBAAPLpMSXAIgYcziPa3X+qSClMwCfa53f lLe96fwLbbNCcpUc3sXOwBQ= =TjCw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----