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The Wednesday 2007-01-31 at 01:02 -0900, John Andersen wrote:

> On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > Nowhere did I claim, nor even hint, that «that speex and vorbis are not
> > violating someone's patent». That's your saying.
> > 
> 
> That's exactly  my point.  I've read patent claims against those two formats
> on the web in the past, as well as the patent claims for the encoding 
> algorithms used to
> encode flac.  

Well, again acording to the wikipedia, that's just FUD.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis#Licensing>

| ... The Xiph.Org Foundation states that Vorbis, like all its 
| developments, is completely free from the licensing or patent issues 
| raised by other proprietary formats such as MP3. Although Xiph.Org 
| states it has conducted a patent search that supports its claims, 
| outside parties (notably engineers working on rival formats) have 
| expressed doubt that Vorbis is free of patented technology.[4]
|
| Xiph.Org maintains that it was privately issued a legal opinion subject 
| to attorney/client privilege. It has not released an official statement 
| on the patent status of Vorbis, pointing out that such a statement is 
| technically impossible due to the number and scope of patents in 
| existence and the questionable validity of many of them. Such issues 
| cannot be resolved outside of a court of law. Some Vorbis proponents 
| have derided the uncertainty concerning the patent status as "FUD": 
| misinformation spread by large companies with a vested interest.
|
| Ogg Vorbis is supported by several large digital audio player 
| manufacturers such as Samsung, Rio, Neuros Technology, Cowon, and 
| iRiver. Many feel that the growing support for the Vorbis codec within 
| the industry supports their interpretation of its patent status, as 
| multinational corporations are unlikely to distribute software with 
| questionable legal status. The same could be said about its growing 
| popularity in other commercial enterprises like mainstream computer 
| games.

> So it seems to me its unsafe to assume, merely because the current rush to 
> ogg is in vouge,
>  that any real escape from this patent nonsense is possible.  

To say that is probably similar to M$ claims of Linux violating their 
pattents. Just FUD, unless they prove it in court.

Anyway... software pattents are nonsensical :-(

- -- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E. R.

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