PEOPLE!

I think it would be nice to step back a little and be a little less
prickly; the original poster had two primary problems (he confused actions
and views, first, and second, wanted to know how to tailor views for
specific useragents.)

Anders addressed the first problem, initially, because it's actually
harder to grasp than the second problem. This is, in fact, "helping." It's
not as clear as solving the second problem directly, but yields much
better benefits in the long run. Once the first problem is solved, the
second becomes much easier.

I think it'd be nice to take the "if you can't say anything nice, don't
say anything at all" approach here. Anders' method is a lot closer to what
you see on IRC, because the original POST was a lot like you see on IRC:
"How do I clear the console screen" gets asked a lot, and has the same
kind of double-problem (console is stupid in java, and then how do you
clear the stupid console?) IRC gets maligned a lot because the average
person on IRC is a complete, clueless, abject moron... but the responses
you see on IRC tend to yield fantastic results overall. (Don't forget that
tech channels on IRC are regularly lambasted as being very unfriendly,
despite visible results.)

It's okay, folks, on both sides. Chill.

Now, ob. webwork: there are two ways you could approach the user-agent
thing: one is to have an action choose a view based on useragent headers
(available through ServletActionContext, IIRC). This action would be
chosen last in the action chain.

The other way is to use a view tech that allows you to render based on
useragent, such as sitemesh.

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On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Jason Carreira wrote:

> OK, in the spirit of helping people be useful members of the community....
>
> Maurice, this: "Lots of people tell me your a nice guy.  I haven't seen that yet." 
>is just rude. There's no other way to take it.
>
> If you're trying to piss people off so they'll go find another project to work on, 
>you're doing a bang-up job.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maurice Parker [mailto:maurice.parker@;pmic.com]
>
> >>
> >You do not need to bite my head off because I tried to clarify the
> >situation before helping as to avoid miscommunications.
> >
> >
> I wasn't biting your head off.  I was trying to help you.  That was me
> reaching out to you and trying to make you a useful member of this
> community.  Lots of people tell me your a nice guy.  I haven't seen that
> yet.
>
> -Maurice
>
> >// Anders Hovmöller
> >
> >
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