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Joseph B. Ottinger                 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://enigmastation.com                    IT Consultant

On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Simon Stewart wrote:

> On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 11:29 Europe/London, Joseph Ottinger wrote:
>
> > It's okay. Actually, you guys were right: why should we bother writing
> > our
> > own? Snipsnap is getting data and not underperforming, IMHO; all it
> > needs
> > is a port away from Jetty and you'd be off and running, with very
> > little
> > work involved. Writing a wiki for opensymphony would involve
> > reinventing
> > wheels, and time that nobody really wants to spend... and it'd need
> > some
> > maturing. Development time costs money and mindshare best spent
> > elsewhere.
>
> Yes, but it would be fantastic to have a real world app that uses Open
> Symphony components in the way that their creators intended them to be
> used. That way, it's possible for newbies to get started a _lot_
> faster, which helps the mindshare of the project as a whole. The Roller
> project is a good example of a project that introduces a newbie to
> various tools, and how they fit together.

As I said before, pointless. I brought this up before; nobody cares. It's
okay. Everybody has a point; it's time and money. OS works, we can use it,
people who want to search it out can use it too (it's not like it's really
hard) and by leveraging other open source projects time can be saved. If
it comes to mindshare, we've already lost, if there's a battle to be
fought: people will use jakarta projects or, as previously blurbed here on
these mailing lists, hibernate.

> Webwork's great, and I'm sure that OSWorkFlow is also the bee's knees.
> OSUser and OSAccess can probably solve a heap of problems (some of the
> perennial "how do I secure my WW app?" questions, perhaps) The missing
> piece of the puzzle is a show case app which demonstrates how it all
> fits together.

I don't think a wiki qualifies. Besides, a "showcase app" would do more to
expose holes than glue everything together. :)



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