On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 11:31 AM, Patrick Lightbody wrote:

If we don't include ant but instead tell people to download ant, I can
promise you that the mavenites will be clamoring for maven builds instead,
since downloading maven or downloading ant are parallels. Besides, build.xml
is there, you can use ant just like you always have.

I disagree. Think of the maintenance hassle. Do you want to check in new versions of ant into 10 projects? And the reason maven isn't used is frankly because it's a foolish tool that is generally used by the need for coolness factor. While I don't doubt that it's useful for some, the general impression I get is that it's more of a fun 'look at all the cruft we get for free' cookiecutter tool.

I don't agree with a comparison of ant and maven. ant is an established stable tool used by many many projects, it's a standard almost. maven is....not



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