Il 09/02/2018 07:41, Илья Шипицин ha scritto: > > > 2018-02-08 20:40 GMT+05:00 Selva Nair <selva.n...@gmail.com > <mailto:selva.n...@gmail.com>>: > > Hi, > > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:15 AM, Samuli Seppänen <sam...@openvpn.net > <mailto:sam...@openvpn.net>> wrote: > > Il 07/02/2018 21:58, David Sommerseth ha scritto: > >> On 07/02/18 20:32, Илья Шипицин wrote: > >>> After auth-token were introduced, when user press "Reconnect", > it leads to > >>> auth fail (saved password is forgotten), we run about 1000 > users, nobody > >>> complains. > >> > >> This is actually expected, I'd say - but smells like a bug on the > server side > >> authentication. > >> > >> Selva may correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of it > when clicking > >> "Reconnect", the local OpenVPN process which caches the > auth-token is stopped > >> and a new OpenVPN process is started. The client should in this > case ask for > >> username/password again. So in this case, the server side should > treat this > >> connection as a fresh connection with no initial state. > >> > >> The step of stopping the local client and starting a new and > fresh one is > >> definitely not a bad feature to have on clients. > >> > >>> It looks like nobody uses that button. > >>> > >>> So, I asked several users, they confirmed they do not use Reconnect. > >> > >> This is no good argument for me. This is one specific setup with > 1000 users. > >> It would be more valuable with 50 different setups having 20 > users each. Your > >> conclusion is based on a very homogeneous environment. > > > > I agree. I also agree that the underlying problem should be fixed. > > > > That said, Ilya's message was sent to both openvpn-users and > > openvpn-devel and nobody has screamed "do not remove the Reconnect > > button" :). The only additional thing we can do is post a message > to the > > forums. As usual, the only sure way to get feedback (read: complaints) > > is to release the changes in an official build/installer. > > Only recently we added a reconnect item to the menu (earlier it was > only available as a button in the status window) for ease of doing > reconnects and based on user requests -- though I can't now find who > asked for it. > > > it is interesting. > > > > I wouldn't take lack of response on the user's list as an indication > that no one uses it. In fact its very handy -- how else will you > restart a connection after editing the config file? Disconnect and > connect again? That would close the status window and lose all > > > yes. disconnect and connect again. > > > > messages in it and also takes a number of mouse clicks because of the > way tray popup menu behaves. > > Anyway the purported reason to remove it is totally bogus. Its like > auth-token cant cope with SIGHUP, so let's remove that signal. > > > no, that is wrong interpretaion. > I actually meant > > "it is broken" --> "users do not complain" --> "users do not care" --> > "other buttons will keep their places" --> "let us remove unused button" > > > > Finally, I'm an user too and I use that button all the time, though > mostly for testing. If that counts as a dissenting voice. > > > > yes, I also meant that. it is "designed by developers for themselves" :) > same as "edit config" menu item. > developers need edit config all the time and reconnect. but do users do > same things as well ? > > > as for "edit config", I'd like to keep it. it's removal will change menu > order, people will click at wrong items. >
This discussion has actually been pretty interesting in the context of "how to get [some] VPN providers[1] to join OpenVPN-GUI development". We'd almost certainly need the capability to easily modify the GUI interface to suit their particular use-cases. Like removing buttons their users don't need. At the moment we don't have anybody willing to do such refactorings, nor any idea if any VPN provider would be interested anyways. -- Samuli Seppänen Community Manager OpenVPN Technologies, Inc irc freenode net: mattock [1] This is something we discussed in the OpenVPN-GUI project (issues/PRs?) on GitHub. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Openvpn-devel mailing list Openvpn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openvpn-devel
