> From: John Mettraux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:02:46 +0900
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: [openwferu-dev] Re: Densha launch with parameters
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 9/15/07, Pat Cappelaere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> I think that in a real-like application, workflows will be stored in
>> databases along with some meta-data and fully versioned.  They are not
>> really url's (although they can be addressed by their urls if needed.  They
>> are resources after all )
> 
> So what's the point then ? Densha cares about URLs. Anything that is
> not accessible via a URL does not exist.

Yes.  In a Resource Oriented Architecture, everything resource is a URL!

> About versioning, here is a link to revision 1025 of a process definition :
> http://viewvc.rubyforge.mmmultiworks.com/cgi/viewvc.cgi/trunk/densha/public/pr
> ocess_definitions/vacation_request_0.rb?revision=1025&root=openwferu
> 
> I'm not a vendor, I don't belong to a Coalition or an Initiative, I
> don't have legacy system whose tooling I have to sell. I keep it
> simple and I try to leverage the things that work in the web/internet
> around me.

That makes both of us then! And I am sure we are not the only ones out
there!
 
>> Workflows can be launched by a user and may need some input, others are
>> launched via a remote invocation (and the parameters are passed in).
>> So for a user-based launch capability, you need form support.  And you
>> probably do not want to keep customizing your application by adding views...
> 
> I already have [a too generic] form support in Densha. If you really
> need the launch operation in Densha to fire up a form handler for
> workflow parameter initialization I will gladly implement that.

=XForms

> 
>> Hopefully, XForms will be integrated in FireFox soon.  Unless someone has a
>> better solution.
> 
> Yes, waiting eagerly for that, but scanning Rails for its form capabilities.

I had played with Liquid with some success.  But I am more interested in
upcoming Web Standards.

Thanks again.

Pat.



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