no its certainly farting. i have you 2 and about 1 other person
complain. the other 95% sent me mails with nice and simple questions and
input and so forth.

i just had a look, yesterday i got related to BB

* 8 "thank you" mails
* 6 mails asking for various support things
* 4 pkg maintainers ask for help/logs
* 2 devs asking for root on the build server
* 2 people reminded me that now BB is out of the way that i promised to
fix NCM, hwdetect, ...
* 2 mails of people voicing wishes for CC
* 2 driver fixes for i2c on mediatek  .....
* and etiennes mails and your reply

sorry but looking at those numbers it is farting that you are doing.

    John








On 02/10/2014 07:01, Hanno Schupp wrote:
> I think this is his point, mate: You work hard (in isolation), but
> don't communicate.
> If you want to avoid emails that smell like farts to you, why not tell
> people what's going on?
>
> On 2 October 2014 17:51, John Crispin <blo...@openwrt.org
> <mailto:blo...@openwrt.org>> wrote:
>
>     nice rant, what happened at mignight that you got so angry that you
>     feel you needed to vent it out on us ?
>
>     i would like to point out that the BB-final binaries have been online
>     for over a day. currently the root filesystems only hold a opkg.conf
>     with base and luci. last night we regenerated the files so that the
>     opkg.conf holds all feeds.
>
>     while you were busy farting we were busy working. but thanks for the
>     nice mail.
>
>
>
>
>
>     On 01/10/2014 23:59, Etienne Champetier wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > OpenWRT is a wonderfull piece of open source code, and it would be
>     > really great if the project management could be as open as the
>     > code. BB should be out now but for an unknow reason, it's not, and
>     > it's frustating. If some feature are missing, let people know. If
>     > some bugs need to be killed, let the community help. If buildbots
>     > are broken, let someone provide new ones. Open a TODO list on an
>     > etherpad, involve people. Whatever the reasons are, i'm sure some
>     > people can help.
>     >
>     > When you open the process, you get more work done (see new packages
>     > feed).
>     >
>     > Please communicate!!!
>     >
>     > Thanks Etienne
>     >
>     >
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