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On 8/23/13 1:55 AM, Evgeniy Khramtsov wrote:
> On 23.08.2013 17:43, Dave Cridland wrote:
>> 
>> You're wrong, actually. But what Phil suggested here was using it
>> for CA pinning, where the certificate is signed by a CA not in
>> your list of trust anchors, where trust in the chain derives from
>> DNSSEC.
>> 
>> As a more complete explanation, dnssec allows records that
>> publish the CA, or certificate, of a service, and whether it is
>> the only such object acceptable or whether it is merely
>> additionally acceptable (ie, if normal PKIX rules apply as well
>> or not). Very flexible, very powerful, well with looking into.
>> 
> 
> I admit I'm total noob in all that CA/PKIX/DNSSEC stuff as it makes
> me sleepy as hell when I try to dive into it ;) What I'd like to
> have is TLS-security without any CAs at all. If we can do that
> with DANE/DNSSEC/ABCD, I'm in ;)

I think we're all in -- or we *will* be when DANE/DNSSEC is widely
deployed, which unfortunately won't happen for years (IMHO) because of
all the dependencies on making it work.

In the meantime, something like POSH can help:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-miller-posh/

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/


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