Hi chairs/WG

As I didn’t answer the initial survey yet, I thought I was still on time. I 
take the opportunity to base my answer on your analysis.

My preference is for the below option4, based more on the “simplicity and 
focus”, with the starting approach of draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang , 
and as suggested, to extend and build on top of the initial HW use cases.

Regarding your second point, I would like to reiterate on the approach as part 
of the example shown in draft-palmero-opsawg-dmlmo, on the import&augmentation 
exercise (referred to in the appendix). We demonstrate how to extend the 
concept of “asset”, considering attributes that might not be initially 
considered in initial model, as they could be easily adopted and extended.

I vote for the so called option 4, as suggested below.

Many thanks,
Marisol Palmero


From: Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Daniele 
Ceccarelli <daniele.i...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 15 September 2023 at 10:45
To: maqiufang (A) <maqiufang1=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: inventory-y...@ietf.org <inventory-y...@ietf.org>, ivy-cha...@ietf.org 
<ivy-cha...@ietf.org>, opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>, cc...@ietf.org <cc...@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network 
inventory base model
Hi working group,

Thanks a lot for all the useful comments on the different drafts.
There seems to be a split of preferences between option 1 and option 3. Given 
that the interinm meeting is soon (next week), we suggest to use it to further 
discuss suggestions and concerns from the working group and defer the decision 
by 1 week (Sep 22nd) immediately after the interim meeting.

In order to have a fruitful discussion at the interim meeting please consider 
the following inputs:


  *   Italo made a very good proposal on the split between HW only and HW+SW 
use cases. Is this something we want to pursue? Do you think it makes sense to 
start focusing on e.g. HW and then add SW on top of it?
  *   When asking to adopt one draft or the other we were asking (as per IETF 
process) which you consider to be a good starting point for the working group 
to work on, not something that is ready for publication. This means that 
whatever draft we decide to adopt, we can significantly update it to properly 
cover all the different aspects of invently. With this regard Alex did a very 
good analysis in his mail. Maybe we don't need to make an hard choice between 
the draft but take the best of each. For example: we can take 30% of one draft 
and 20% of the other and build a new one as per option 3, if on the other side 
we decide to take 80% from one draft, then it makes more sense to start from it 
and build on top of that.
  *   Another good point touched by Alex is the "equipment-room". We are 
supposed to cover also sites and location of the inventory. Are these things 
connected? it seems so. If the WG prefers not to address this in the core model 
and add it on top, that fine, otherwise we would suggest to have sites and 
location added (whetehr in che core model or added on top can be discussed).
Again we have a good proposal from Alex on the way forward, which is:


"For example, one could start with draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang, 
modifying it to remove the network-hardware-inventory container and splitting 
the remaining module in two (for equipment-room and network-elements, both of 
which will now be top-level containers).  Remaining modifications can be made 
from there.  I guess this makes me a proponent of option 3, but with the caveat 
that this would not need to restart from scratch - really an option 4 that says 
merge (for overall structure and common parts, which in this case is possible) 
and split the remaining difference."
We don't really care whether this is called option 1, 3 or 4 but seems to be 
the most meaningful one...which is: use ccamp draft as a starting point, 
implementing the modifications suggested by Alex and then incorporate the 
material from the opsawg draft.

Given this deferral of the polling decision, if anyone else wants to ask for a 
10 mins slot at the interim, please do so now. We will put together the agenda 
on Monday.

Thanks you everyone
Daniele & Qiufang


On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 8:22 AM maqiufang (A) 
<maqiufang1=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>> 
wrote:
Hi Working Group,

It’s now time to start considering how to move forward with the inventory base 
model. We have two different documents that could be used as a starting point 
for our work or, in case the working group believes none of them is “good 
enough”, we can start a brand new ID.
In case the latter option is chosen, Daniele and I will write a -00 version 
including just the table of content and what we’d like to be covered in each 
section. The document will then be handed over to a pool of authors which will 
bring it till the WG adoption.

Hence, we will have a 3 weeks polling starting today. We decided to make it a 
bit longer than usual because this time the working group is requested to 
review two drafts instead of one.

This mail starts a 3 weeks polling, terminating on September 15th,  where we 
would like the working group to express your preference among:


  1.  Adopt  draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to 
become the network inventory base model
  2.  Adopt draft-wzwb-opsawg-network-inventory-management-03 in IVY and evolve 
it to become the network inventory base model
  3.  Start a brand new document from scratch as described above

In the week after the closure of the polling (between September 18 and 25) we 
will have an IVY interim meeting to discuss the issues/concerns raised during 
the polling ( A separate mail will be sent).

Thank you,

Qiufang and Daniele

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