As a contributor of opsawg (authors of 9291 can correct me), the scope of 
RFC9291 and RFC5601 are not the same.  RFC5601 defines a device-level MIB 
module specifically for pseudowires.  RFC9291 defines a network-level YANG 
module abstracting various L2VPN network services and is designed to be 
implemented on a network controller.  Therefore, the oper-status is not 
specifically tied to a pseudowire class and not tied to a particular 
device-level implementation (i.e., it applies to the network-level L2VPN).

The intent of YANG network and service data models is that they abstract 
capabilities to a customer-facing or network-facing portal/controller and 
ultimately rely on device-level interfaces (hopefully standards-based, 
device-level YANG data models, but maybe proprietary YANG data models or CLI) 
to do the configuration and perform the monitoring across the full service 
implementation.  It would be up to the device-level pseudowire interface to 
provide the modeling and documentation that the PW-MIB has.

Joe

From: Alexander Vainshtein <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, August 10, 2025 at 07:27
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, 
[email protected] <[email protected]>, 
[email protected] <[email protected]>, 
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services 
Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: [OPSAWG]PW Operational Status in RFC 9251
Dear authors of RFC 9291<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9291>,

I have looked up the standard and found that it presumably mentions Operational 
Status of a pseudowire as oper-status without any clarifications and/or 
references, and, specifically, without any association with various indicators 
in the PW Status TLV.

This is quite different from RFC 
5601<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5601>,  which explicitly provides 
such linkage as can be seen from the quoted text below:

  pwOperStatus OBJECT-TYPE
     SYNTAX        PwOperStatusTC
     MAX-ACCESS    read-only
     STATUS        current
     DESCRIPTION
          "This object indicates the operational status of the PW; it
           does not reflect the status of the Customer Edge (CE) bound
           interface.  It is set to down only if pwNotForwarding,
           psnFacingPwRxFault, or psnFacingPwTxFault indications are
           set in pwLocalStatus or pwRemoteStatus.
           It indicates 'lowerLayerDown' if the only reason for
           not being in the 'up' state is that either the outer tunnel
           or physical layer of the network side is in the 'down'
           state.
           All other states are declared based on the description
           of the PwOperStatusTC.
           "

I wonder whether, from your POV, the quoted definition of the PW Operatonal 
Status is still applicable or not.


Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha



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