Joel,

> On Nov 12, 2025, at 2:46 PM, Joel Halpern <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think this misses the important point.  Yes, working out a YANG RFC takes 
> time.  Doing it as an I-D does introduce some obstacles.  But...
> 
> We need to actually get community engagement and agreement. Otherwise, they 
> are just individual YANG modules, not standards. Getting community engagement 
> and agreement takes time and effort. If you don't want to do that, then post 
> your individual YANG module wherever you want, with whatever non-IETF process 
> you want.

My concern is more a matter of the fit for purpose of a given tool.

Our common goal is engagement and review that we need for consensus.

Developing or reviewing YANG in an I-D is very clumsy. I see this discussion as 
how we try to improve that.

Capturing the contents of the modules in I-D as a snapshot may indeed be our 
intended mechanism for moving the process train forward.  However, if that 
happens to be backed by tooling that provides the raw modules and a 
"development" environment is likely a large win.  

The massive bit of work Mahesh roped me into for BGP YANG was a nice 
demonstration on how better tooling significantly eased workflow for the 
authors.  Here, I see the conversation to be the similar discussion about how 
we ease this for reviewers and users.

-- Jeff

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