On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 6:13 PM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:

>
> PS: I'm sure someone will claim that being logical about
> this "ignores reality" so just to get in a comment on
> that ahead of time: reality includes lots of bad
> engineering...
>

I agree with this comment. In particular, I object to phrases along the
lines of:

"TLS 1.3 considerations: reduced effectiveness"

Ignoring their aims, I don't think these products work, and I don't think
the IETF should publish documents that make it seem like they do.

I would support an ISE submission.

thanks,
Rob
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