On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 08:14:34PM +0100, Olaf Selke wrote: > nothing will change for German tor operators due to this law. It defines > how to store and how to hand over stored data to the authorities. Data > not collected at all can't be stored, right?. But this law does not > enforce tor operators to collect any data.
Oh, really? So ISPs, VoIP and mobile phone providers have nothing to fear, right? Wonder why they've been whining, then. I wonder why I went demonstrating for the first time in my life, in the freezing sleet, with a bad cold. > If the tor application would offer connection logging, and if a German It does. Not that this is relevant to the issue. Firewalls can log, too. > tor operator would activate it, then this tor operator will have to I know you said you consulted with a few lawyers, but this is an incredibly bad advice. Let's deal with this after Karlsruhe okays it, and using quite a few more lawyer specialists, a few months before 20090101. I'm certainly not the first guy to cave in, but once there's a high probability of winding up with a criminal record I'll stop running Tor, and do something else instead. > store this data for six months. Please read ยง113 the first sentence of > this fucking law. Don't waste your time. Let's see what Karlsruhe says first. And since we're talking laws, look at GG Par. 20, Abs. 4. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE