-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Perry wrote: > Thus spake Smuggler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> Olaf Selke wrote: >>> Eugen Leitl wrote: >>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 08:14:34PM +0100, Olaf Selke wrote: >>>> >>>>> nothing will change for German tor operators due to this law. It defines >>>>> how to store and how to hand over stored data to the authorities. Data >>>>> not collected at all can't be stored, right?. But this law does not >>>>> enforce tor operators to collect any data. >>>> Oh, really? So ISPs, VoIP and mobile phone providers have nothing to fear, >>>> right? >>> right! >> Wrong. I read the law. My lawyers read the law. It doesnt say: Store the >> data you have. It says: Store these specific datasets, no matter if you >> have them or not. The comments in the "Regierungsentwurf" are very telling. >> So, I am sorry. Tor nodes will have to log. ISPs will have to log. >> Everyone doing public telco services will have to log. > > Actually, out of curiosity do your lawyers believe that > upstream/backbone/IX ISPs will also be required to log (and to log the > same type of data)? That would seem to be a lot of data.. Not to > mention that upstream ISPs will not have customer information for IP > addresses. It would seem to me that Tor nodes are much more similar to > backbone routers than consumer ISPs. > >
No, upstreams/backbones etc dont have to log. Only parties generating traffic data in the first place (dialup) and parties changing traffic data (Tor) have to store. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHO1PnOMmnRrmEoQkRArkKAJ9/oOvPxQVX1yca7Okc7Z77DzbPqwCgmYsH LgeqiBGPgpNAGLr+Dg3xf9k= =F9Wc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----