Title: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.

Did anyone notice the DATE on that story?

I wonder <innocent look> if there is any substantive
update in

THREE YEARS SINCE IT HAPPENED.



LOL!


It's like the scalability attacks on Linux three years ago! HO HO!

<VBG>

-----Original Message-----
From: Suhen Pather [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 5:03 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.



 

H <http://www.hotmail.com/> otmail, The Microsoft Corporation
<http://www.microsoft.com/


This free Web-based e-mail service runs a mixture of Sun Solaris and
FreeBSD. Apache 1.2.1 is the Web server software. After Microsoft purchased
the company in December 1997, they tried to migrate to NT, but ". . . the
demands of supporting 10 million users reportedly proved too great for NT,
and Solaris was reinstated." Get the full story: Solaris calls Hotmail shots
<http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch/hotmail.html> for Microsoft.


 

 You're right about that, Ross. People can use Microsoft products,
businesses cannot. Of course the world does need organized recipes and an
animated paper clip to remind them of cousin Tilly's wedding so in that
regard I guess Microsoft products are useful. :o)



  "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Reboots:

 

Did you realize you DO have to reboot after some Solaris package installs?
Maybe

not "all" and maybe not "Solaris 8", but.....certainly some of them with
kernel hooks

in 2.5.

 

Crashes:

 

Most of them due to poor third party driver authoring -- MS, a software
company, gave

too much MoJo to developers. Imagine that. Same reason most of their
software

swamps the market. People can USE it. Shocking Development!  <G>



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From the URL:


http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/r
eliable/default.asp
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/
reliable/default.asp>



PCs Stay Up and Running



Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused many of the
system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we
changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software
applications will interfere with one another.


Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15
years ago.



Fewer Reboots



Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly fewer
reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In addition, with its
support for Plug and Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and adapts
to hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware devices such
as scanners, DVD players, and speakers without rebooting, and with less
potential for user error.


Reboots are also reduced-and reliability increased-through the Microsoft
hardware device driver certification program. This program helps ensure that
hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not require a
reboot after installation. Certified drivers are tested and digitally signed
by Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not
digitally signed, it warns users about the risk before they install it on
their system

 
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/
reliable/default.asp>


Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from it's
beginings.



How Much More Reliable Is Windows 2000 Professional?



Third-party studies that assess reliability from three different
perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and user
perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the most reliable
desktop operating system.



Highest Reliability in Production Environments



NSTL
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/reviews/nstl.asp>
collected uptime data in the real-world environment of several customer
sites and concluded that the average system uptime between failures of
Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that of Windows 98 and three
times more than that of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.


Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with socially
unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is
that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right
they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers.



Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows and
Unix. ;o)



  Kevin Kostyszyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









I would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like Unix?





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The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate Microsoft is
going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes more like it with
every release.




-Rocky




  "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:











Yea, but......




Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict that, in
5 years, there will be two or three Unix vendors, fighting over
the 45% of the market that DataCenter hasn't eaten.




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Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old DOS/Windows backward
compatibility for WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite Cutler's
leadership.




I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS!




With apologies to Senator Bentsen,
Steve Orr





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stephane
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NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if my
memory is good the guy's name is Cutter.




Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot ?




--- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : >
"...Standing,  corrected, and sniggering....."
> Odd picture, that......
>
>
> Anyways, pop quiz:
>
> On what OS kernel technology is NT based?
>
> Who was the original designer and what was his/her
> first OS?
>
>




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