RE: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.

Mohan, Ross Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:54:32 -0800

Title: RE: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.

How about WORD2000 for Solaris 8???

Works great!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 5:13 PM
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Subject: RE: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.

What about Mechwarrior or Quake II, can I run that on Unix and will it run
smoothly? This is a fun debate, but I do agree there will never be a
winner.

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I believe I've seen a shareware version of that out on the web somewhere for
various flavors of Unix with X-windows.

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Author: "Kevin Kostyszyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2/1/2001 1:18 PM

Oh, and not only that, I like the GUI a lot more than I like command based
programming...unless.....can you play solitaire on Unix:)
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rocky Welch
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:28 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.

From the URL:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/r
eliable/default.asp

PCs Stay Up and Running
Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused many of the
system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we
changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software
applications will interfere with one another.

Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15
years ago.

Fewer Reboots
Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly fewer
reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In addition, with its
support for Plug and Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and adapts
to hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware devices such
as scanners, DVD players, and speakers without rebooting, and with less
potential for user error.

Reboots are also reduced-and reliability increased-through the Microsoft
hardware device driver certification program. This program helps ensure that
hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not require a
reboot after installation. Certified drivers are tested and digitally signed
by Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not
digitally signed, it warns users about the risk before they install it on
their system

Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from it's
beginings.

How Much More Reliable Is Windows 2000 Professional?
Third-party studies that assess reliability from three different
perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and user
perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the most reliable
desktop operating system.

Highest Reliability in Production Environments
NSTL collected uptime data in the real-world environment of several
customer sites and concluded that the average system uptime between failures
of Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that of Windows 98 and
three times more than that of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.

Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with socially
unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is
that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right
they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers.

Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows and
Unix. ;o)

Kevin Kostyszyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like Unix?

      -----Original Message-----
      From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rocky
Welch
      Sennt: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:01 PM
      To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
      Subject: Re: OT NT2K vs Unix.

The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate
Microsoft is going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes more
like it with every release.

-Rocky

"Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yea, but......

        Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict that, in
        5 years, there will be two or three Unix vendors, fighting over
        the 45% of the market that DataCenter hasn't eaten.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Steve Orr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]]]
        Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:01 PM
        To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
        Subject: RE: OT_RE:_Ref._:_Re:_asyn_i/o_on_sun_

        Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old DOS/Windows backward
        compatibility for WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite
Cutler's
        leadership.

I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS!

With apologies to Senator Bentsen,
Steve Orr

-----Original Message-----
 stephane
 Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:22 AM&<
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if my
memory is good the guy's name is Cutter.

Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot ?

--- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a ecrit : >
 "...Standing, corrected, and sniggering....."
 > Odd picture, that......
 >
 >
 > Anyways, pop quiz:
 >
 > On what OS kernel technology is NT based?
 >
 > Who was the original designer and what was his/her
 > first OS?
 >
 >

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<DIV>Oh,
and not only that, I like the GUI a lot more than I like command based
programming...unless.....can you play solitaire on
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rocky Welch Sent:
Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of
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ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix. </DIV>
From the URL:
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href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/over
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onal
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<H3>PCs Stay Up and Running</H3>
Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused many of the
system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we
changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software
applications will interfere with one another. 
Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15
years ago.
<H3>Fewer Reboots</H3>
Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly
fewer
reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In addition, with its
support for Plug and Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and
adapts to

hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware devices such as
scanners, DVD players, and speakers without rebooting, and with less
potential

for user error.
Reboots are also reduced-and reliability increased-through the
Microsoft
hardware device driver certification program. This program helps ensure
that
hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not require a
reboot

after installation. Certified drivers are tested and digitally signed by
Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not
digitally
signed, it warns users about the risk before they install it on their
system<A

href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/over
vi
ew/reliable/default.asp"></A>
Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from it's
beginings.
<H3>How Much More Reliable Is Windows 2000 Professional?</H3>
Third-party studies that assess reliability from three different
perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and user
perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the most
reliable desktop operating system.
<H3>Highest Reliability in Production Environments</H3>
<A

href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/reviews/nstl.a
sp
">NSTL
collected uptime data</A> in the real-world environment of several
customer
sites and concluded that the average system uptime between failures of
Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that of
Windows 98 and three times more than that of
Windows NT Workstation 4.0.
Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with
socially
unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is
that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right
they

aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers.
Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows
and
Unix. ;o)
  Kevin Kostyszyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
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 Unix. </DIV> 
 The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate
 Microsoft is going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes
more

like it with every release. 
 -Rocky 
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 Yea, but...... 
 Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict
 that, in 5 years, there will be two or three
 Unix vendors, fighting over the 45% of the
 market that DataCenter hasn't eaten. 
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Steve Orr [<A
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 Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old
 DOS/Windows backward compatibility for
 WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite Cutler's
 leadership. 
 I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS!
 
 With apologies to Senator Bentsen, Steve Orr 
 -----Original Message----- stephane Sent: Thursday, February 01,
 2001 9:22 AM&< To: Multiple
recipients of

list ORACLE-L 
 NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if
 my memory is good the guy's name is
 Cutter. 
 Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot
 ? 
 --- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a
 écrit : > "...Standing, 
corrected,
 and sniggering....." > Odd picture,
 that...... > > > Anyways, pop quiz:
 > > On what OS kernel
 technology is NT based? >
 > Who was the original designer and what was
his/her
 > first OS? >
 > 
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