It's all "accounting" and "Wall street analysts".  Most accountants I know can't
keep their own check books balanced and I've got an old class mate down in a
wallstreet brokerage.  He does petrochemical companies.  What I don't understand
is how he got the job as he flunked chemistry in HS, and I mean REALLY flunked,
like < 40 as a final grade not to mention what happen to the lab bench!!

It just doesn't figure.  If you have a car problem you go looking for a
qualified mechanic.  But when you've got money to invest you listen to an
Analyst?  What about the opinions coming from the company CFO??  Case of the
blind leading the blind & deaf.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Tim Sawmiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       3/21/2001 11:45 AM

But all is not gloom and doom for Oracle.  Excerpts from Chuck Phillips of
Morgan Stanley on the last quarter....

It's useful to keep the quarter in perspective.  
It's a miss but not a  financial disaster:

 - Oracle made $900 million in operating profits in the quarter.  This is
     real business.

 - Revenue of $2.67 billion was 5% below our $2.75 billion estimate --
   not 25%  below like some other pre-announcements.

 - The company booked $1.1 billion in license revenue instead of our $1.2
   billion estimate -- so most deals closed.

 - Applications were up 50% in the quarter.  Database was flat to
   slightly  down in the quarter versus a tough compare.  Total licenses 
   increased  6%.

 Oracle was one of the last generals left standing on a brittle
 technology  battlefield, and in the end couldn't avoid the bullets and hand
grenades  that  were showering down from above.  It has become clear that in an 
environment  like this one, there are no bulletproof vests.  Other software
companies  have  to be concerned and will likely see something in March.  Oracle
has a  strong  product line, is well established with customers references and
couldn't  get  quite enough deals done.  Most other software companies are in
far  weaker  positions from a product and positioning perspective.


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$1 Billion Savings Gets Even Less Likely For Oracle

Oracle's goal to reach one billion dollars in savings by implementing 
its own financial software just got even more unattainable. Oracle 
Thursday announced financial results for the third quarter, ending 
Feb. 28. As expected, the company failed to meet the margins and 
profits it will need to achieve its savings goals,  

The operating margin for the third quarter was 33 percent. That's up 
2 percent year-over-year, which is good, but it falls far short of 
the 40 percent margin that the company and financial analysts have 
said would be needed to achieve the company's goal of saving 1 
billion in costs this year over last year.  

Combine the disappointing operating margin with flat, rather than 
growing, profits and what you end up with is a cost savings, year-
over-year, significantly less than even the $300 million that it 
seemed was just barely within Oracle's reach two weeks ago. -- Mitch 
Wagner  

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