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On Thursday 19 April 2001 15:31, Eric D. Pierce wrote:
...
> As far as I know, structured denormalization is considered to be a
> method for modification of a normalized design. There should be
> disipline/method/rules that try to get the best performance increase
> in a trade-off for the least collateral damage (extra coding).
>
> I get the impression that this is standard operating procedure,
> documented in industry journals, and so forth.
>
> In your experience, what percentage of "real world" dbs are using
> pure normalized designs?

In my experience, DBA's are scum and developers lobby the managers
with tales of how terrible life will be if they're forced to write code for
a normalized database.  

I guess I'm saying that I can't recall starting with a completely normalized 
database ( just 3rd normal form here ) and then denormalize if we found
it necessary for some reason.  

We've usually have had some denormalization in as soon as we started
doing physical modeling.  Sigh.  

If you're familiar with the Help Desk software 'Remedy', you will know that
it has one of the worst schemas ever designed by man or beast.  If you
haven't seen it, you would have a hard time imagining it.  Yes, worse than
Finanacials, Lawson, SAP, etc.

( 'where is he going with this?' you ask )

One of my fantasies is to build a help desk system that runs on a normalized
schema, open source it, and put Remedy out of business.  The schema
is that bad.

>
> Has this changed as hardware becomes more powerful and cheaper?
>

Hardware, and Oracle has improved in it's ability to join.  I assume other
databases are faster than in years past as well.

> pss, aren't you *ever* going to tell us what happened at your last
> job?

Sorry, thought I had.

My previous employer laid off several folks.  I wasn't among them however.
Damagement decided to take this opportunity to redeploy several positions
to HQ in Houston TX.

If you've spent any time in the Pacific NorthWest, you may understand why
I chose to stay here.  Likewise if you've been to Houston  :)

( hope I didn't offend any Texicans :)

I'm taking this opportunity to attempt  a slight career change and get into
the contracting side of things.

Jared


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