Steve,

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD have mercy!

If the "DBA union" develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional 
context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic 
squabbling & bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on 
hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended).

Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the 
dynamics of managing the "organizational culture" of a group. There 
has been a lot of research done on "computer mediated communication", 
"communities of practice", the inherent capacity of people to become 
"self-learning/self-aware" outside the realms of narrow minded, self-
serving corporate/bureaucratic "expertise" and so forth. As far as I 
can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent 
conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any 
attempt to push the "organizational" boundries of hazyDBA's culture 
any further doesn't seem very promising.

regards,
ep

btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main 
page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the "discuss" link undre 
the following heading (on the left just under the green banner): 

       "Followup to last
        week's forum
        This is a followup
        to last weeks forum.
        Discuss"

Apparently "last week's forum" refers to the next heading down which 
is titled:

       "Is Henry awful 
        or not?
        This section is to
        discuss the recent
        events on the list. Is
        Henry Awful or
        not?"
    (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5)





On 5 Jun 2001, at 7:20, Steve Adams wrote:

Date sent:              Tue, 05 Jun 2001 07:20:39 -0800
To:                     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the "commercial DBA union"!
> The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6

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