When using first rows, you force the cost based optimizer, in which the
order of the tables does not matter.

Order of the tables only matters when using the ORDERED hint or using rbo
AND there is a tie ranking.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
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Hi there,

Unfortunately you can't just throw things like FIRST_ROWS at a select
statement to make it run faster. The person who wrote the statement should
have taken into account such things as:

a) Size of tables, ordering, which is the driving table
b) Indexes, are the being used, running statements through explain plan will
show you where the bottlenecks are...failing that TKPROF will identify
potential problem areas with your database.
c) Size of queries, joins etc.

Too many developers do not write code to be efficient, as long as it returns
the correct values it doesn't matter whether it takes 2 minutes or  2
hours...

I've spent a number of hours/days/weeks/months tidying up poorly optimised
code, it's an absolute nightmare for the DBAs and it doesn't look good on
the developers.

Cheers,
Kev.
(a cheesed off developer...not a DBA!)


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Sent: 07 August 2001 17:06
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Morning listers!

I am having performance problems with this database, transactions ar running
very slow and I am not sure if I have choose the right optimizer mode... 

AIX 4.2.1, Oracle 7.3.4, 30 GB Database, 1 GB Real Memory, 
500 MB SGA, 70 concurrent users, mostly OLTP transactions.

I have tunned init parameters the best I can we the resources I have:

db_files = 70
db_writers = 4
db_file_multiblock_read_count = 16
db_block_buffers = 57600
db_block_size = 8192
shared_pool_size = 157286400
processes = 200
dml_locks = 1500
log_buffer = 655360
sequence_cache_entries = 800
sequence_cache_hash_buckets = 89
log_checkpoint_interval = 80000
optimizer_mode=CHOOSE
session_cached_cursors =  300
sort_area_size=1048576
hash_area_size=262144
hash_multiblock_io_count=4
hash_join_enabled=TRUE
always_anti_join=HASH
job_queue_processes=8

35 rollback segments, inital 1MB, next 1MB, optimal 30 MB
8 multiplexed redologs, 30 MB each

I tried FIRST_ROWS, analyzing the tables, but users claimed that performance
was getting worse, so I chaged it to Choose. Always analyzing the tables....

but, everytime I analyze the tables, performance gets worse.
Is this a normal behavior?

Any advice will be welcome!

thanks is advance,

Saludos, 
Veronica Levin Enriquez
Administrador AIX
Compañía Cervecera de Nicaragua
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