if 40 is small, is 16 microscopic? (and of that 16, 5 are consultants)
>From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: !! Keeping the list alive
>Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:35:23 -0800
>
>
>Just to add to my previous comment:
>
>I'm working at a company with small ( 40 or so ) IS shop.
>
>The weak do not survive in this environment. The developers
>I work with here are great. They're bright, hard working and
>un-egotistical. They are even will to take direction from the
>DBA in database related matters.
>
>Not a duhveloper in the bunch.
>
>Ya gotta love it!
>
>Jared
>
>On Thursday 30 August 2001 14:16, you wrote:
> > Um, Kevin, if the shoe doesn't fit, then don't wear it. :)
> >
> > Not all developers are duhvelopers, in fact, most of the ones I know
> > are very good, but the ones that are duhvelopers require
> > so much attention that it kind of wears on you. :)
> >
> > And some of us DB-ehs can do just fine writing apps, thank you,
> > but we choose a path that requires less 'direction' from users. ;)
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Thomas, Kevin"
> > <Kevin.Thomas@cal To: Multiple recipients
>of
> > list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> anais.com> cc:
> > Sent by: Subject: RE: !! Keeping
>the
> > list alive [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > 08/30/01 08:26 AM
> > Please respond to
> > ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have to say I resent being called a duhveloper, granted the majority
> > couldn't tune a banjo let alone tune a piece of SQL, but as a techie
>(and
> > we
> > all are), I find this list invaluable for getting advice on a wide range
>of
> > topics, not just keeping a DB up and running or tuned...I don't call you
> > guys names, and let's face it you DB-ehs? couldn't write a decent
> > application if your lives depended on it...
> >
> > (blue touch-paper lit, retire a distance, do not re-approach once lit,
>and
> > wait for fireworks)
> >
> >
> > "hit any user to continue"
> > __________________
> >
> > Kevin Thomas
> > Technical Analyst
> > Deregulation Services
> > Calanais Ltd.
> > (2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
> > Tel: 0141 568 2377
> > Fax: 0141 568 2366
> > http://www.calanais.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: 30 August 2001 15:46
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > no, those posts keep us "underworked" DBAs from killing the duhvelopers
>who
> >
> > make us do the same thing over and over and over and who never listen
>when
> > we tell them the correct way to design the tables.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
> > >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:00:52 -0800
> > >
> > >Just look at the number of OT postings in the last couple of months...
> > >
> > >: )
> > >
> > >Patrice Boivin
> > >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> > >
> > >Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
> > >Technology Services | Services technologiques
> > >Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
> > >Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:58 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
> > >
> > > You're surprised at those willing to pay?
> > >
> > > You have to realize that most DBAs are over-payed and
> >
> > under-worked
> >
> > >....
> > > <<ducking>>
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:43 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: !! Keeping the list alive
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This list is apparently a more valuable resource to many of
> >
> > you
> >
> > >than I
> > >
> > > > realized.
> > > >
> > > > I'm literally bowled over by the generosity. I've received
> > > > so many emails
> > > > about
> > > > this that I really can't personally reply to them all right
> >
> > now.
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