How many people outhere that you know do actually have OCM. Not ORACLE employees.
Just curious... Regards, Viktor --- "Bowes, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe I am completely misreading this. However, I > didn't see the 8 to 9 OCP > upgrade and that is why I said, you'll have to take > them over again. If I > am completely out to lunch and this is just a re-org > of the Masters and OCP > and those 8 OCP can get OCM with 2 classes and a > test, then I apologize for > wasting your time and bandwidth, but from what I > read (and it was a quick > read) even if you are 8 OCP, you still have to have > the 9 OCA and OCP before > you can get the 9 OCM. > > --Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:41 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Of course, those of us who already have the OCP and > want to be called a > 'master' > just need to take the 2 required courses and then > the OCM exam. > > When looking at the details, they just split the > previous 5 exam OCP into > two tiers, > a 2 exam OCA, and a 2 exam OCP which has the OCA as > a prerequisite. > > The Oracle Master was always available, but without > a test -- it just > required taking ILT courses. They just added a > practicum exam to > make the OCM cert. > > I can see your point about this being a 'money > grab', but the only new item > here is the OCM practicum exam -- everything else > existed for 8 and 8i. > > -Joe > > At 07:05 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote: > > >I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the > requirements for each. You > >can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first > have to get the > >OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert > we have to have > >it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP. > Then and only then, can we > >take the OCM and that is after we take these > REQUIRED classes from Oracle > >Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared > Still, has to spend > >money in a class that they could probably teach > from memory before they > >can get certification and that is after getting 2 > other certs that have no > >value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is > nothing but a money > grab. > > > > From the website: > > > >--To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the > exams required > >-- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected > job role. Typically, > >--two exams are required; the first one can be > taken via the Internet, > >--while subsequent exams must be taken in a > proctored environment. By > >--completing your Oracle Associate, you are > half-way toward achieving the > >-- Oracle Certified Professional credential. > > > >--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you > must pass all required > >exams > >--in your selected job role, including those at the > Associate level. > > > >--To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must > first be an Oracle > >--Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving > your OCM credential > >--requires attending two advanced level Oracle > University courses from > >--the list shown on this page as well as passing > the OCM Practicum exam. > > > >--Chris > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >Subject: The OCP bar is being raised > > > >Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's > about time: > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > >--- > >Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified > Professional (OCP) > Achievement > > > >A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training > Services quoted database > >professionals and network engineers as the > fastest-growing areas of > >Professional > >Certification. And in an October survey from > *crn.com on Certification, > >58% of > >respondents said that it is very difficult to find > qualified Oracle > Certified > >Professionals-Database Administrators. > > > >To meet this demand, we have recently introduced > two new levels of > >professional > >achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to > Application and Java > >Developers > >worldwide): > > > >The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an > entry-level Oracle qualification > >requiring successful completion of two exams. > >The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced > qualification for Oracle > >Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires > students to take a practicum > >exam > >on-sitee at an Oracle University education center. > >Visit > ><http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.h > tml>http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels > .html > > > >for more information > > > >IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001 > >crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct > 2001 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > >----- > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > ><http://www.orafaq.com>http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 > FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California -- Public Internet > access / Mailing Lists > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). 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