Well, there are at least 6 - from http://www.tusc.com/oracle/news/20011203a.html
"Niemiec joins Dr. Paul Dorsey, David Ensor, Peter Koletzke, Scott Nelson and Jeremiah Wilton in the first group of Oracle Certified Masters to be recognized by Oracle Corp" -Joe At 09:15 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote: >How many people outhere that you know do actually have >OCM. Not ORACLE employees. > >Just curious... > >Regards, > >Viktor > >--- "Bowes, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe I am completely misreading this. However, I > > didn't see the 8 to 9 OCP > > upgrade and that is why I said, you'll have to take > > them over again. If I > > am completely out to lunch and this is just a re-org > > of the Masters and OCP > > and those 8 OCP can get OCM with 2 classes and a > > test, then I apologize for > > wasting your time and bandwidth, but from what I > > read (and it was a quick > > read) even if you are 8 OCP, you still have to have > > the 9 OCA and OCP before > > you can get the 9 OCM. > > > > --Chris > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:41 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Of course, those of us who already have the OCP and > > want to be called a > > 'master' > > just need to take the 2 required courses and then > > the OCM exam. > > > > When looking at the details, they just split the > > previous 5 exam OCP into > > two tiers, > > a 2 exam OCA, and a 2 exam OCP which has the OCA as > > a prerequisite. > > > > The Oracle Master was always available, but without > > a test -- it just > > required taking ILT courses. They just added a > > practicum exam to > > make the OCM cert. > > > > I can see your point about this being a 'money > > grab', but the only new item > > here is the OCM practicum exam -- everything else > > existed for 8 and 8i. > > > > -Joe > > > > At 07:05 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote: > > > > >I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the > > requirements for each. You > > >can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first > > have to get the > > >OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert > > we have to have > > >it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP. > > Then and only then, can we > > >take the OCM and that is after we take these > > REQUIRED classes from Oracle > > >Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared > > Still, has to spend > > >money in a class that they could probably teach > > from memory before they > > >can get certification and that is after getting 2 > > other certs that have no > > >value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is > > nothing but a money > > grab. > > > > > > From the website: > > > > > >--To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the > > exams required > > >-- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected > > job role. Typically, > > >--two exams are required; the first one can be > > taken via the Internet, > > >--while subsequent exams must be taken in a > > proctored environment. By > > >--completing your Oracle Associate, you are > > half-way toward achieving the > > >-- Oracle Certified Professional credential. > > > > > >--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you > > must pass all required > > >exams > > >--in your selected job role, including those at the > > Associate level. > > > > > >--To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must > > first be an Oracle > > >--Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving > > your OCM credential > > >--requires attending two advanced level Oracle > > University courses from > > >--the list shown on this page as well as passing > > the OCM Practicum exam. > > > > > >--Chris > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Subject: The OCP bar is being raised > > > > > >Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's > > about time: > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > > > > >--- > > >Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified > > Professional (OCP) > > Achievement > > > > > >A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training > > Services quoted database > > >professionals and network engineers as the > > fastest-growing areas of > > >Professional > > >Certification. And in an October survey from > > *crn.com on Certification, > > >58% of > > >respondents said that it is very difficult to find > > qualified Oracle > > Certified > > >Professionals-Database Administrators. > > > > > >To meet this demand, we have recently introduced > > two new levels of > > >professional > > >achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to > > Application and Java > > >Developers > > >worldwide): > > > > > >The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an > > entry-level Oracle qualification > > >requiring successful completion of two exams. > > >The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced > > qualification for Oracle > > >Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires > > students to take a practicum > > >exam > > >on-sitee at an Oracle University education center. > > >Visit > > > ><http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.h> >tml>http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels > > .html > > > > > >for more information > > > > > >IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001 > > >crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct > > 2001 > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > > > > >----- > > >-- > > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > > ><http://www.orafaq.com>http://www.orafaq.com > > >-- > > >Author: > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 > > FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > >San Diego, California -- Public Internet > > access / Mailing Lists > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > > E-Mail message > > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > > 'ListGuru') and in > > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > > ORACLE-L > > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > > from). 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