we had it with FirstWatch from Veritas on top -- sometimes disks didn't
get dismounted from the first server, or remounted on the second one..
then we had database failures


--- "Baker, Barbara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Jim:
> Sorry, you're not gonna like this answer.  HA is a Sun product, not
> an
> Oracle product. Under Sun's High Availability, you can configure
> several
> modules like Sybase and Oracle.  (The Oracle product is Sun Cluster
> HA-DBMS
> for Oracle.)  It does require what I believe Sun calls a cluster but
> (IMHO)
> is a bastardization of the term.  It truly is failover, not cluster.
> 
> We've had lots of problems with it.  It's caused us lots of grief,
> and only
> in a few instances gained us anything.  It is NOT OPS, as the
> database does
> not run in parallel, but only on 1 box at a time.  (Everything is
> double
> cabled, and so the drives are re-mounted on the 2nd box if a failover
> occurs.)  Your users still get disconnected.  You'd probably lose
> less data
> than with a standby (since you pick up with the same drives mounted
> on the
> other box), but it depends on how you have the standby implemented.  
> 
> There's no additional cost from Oracle to run this crap, but you'll
> be
> paying Sun great sums of money.  The Sun web site has more info on
> HA.
> 
> 
> Let me know if you need more info.
> Good luck!
> 
> Barb
> 
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       James McCann[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:       Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:40 AM
> > To:         Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:    Standby Instance questions and HA
> > 
> > Hi,
> >   I was reading in the book "Oracle 24/7 Tips and Techniques" about
> > Standby
> > Instances.
> > 
> > Note, this is not a standby database.
> > 
> > From the book it seams to work in the following way...
> > 
> > There is only one database.
> > The database files exist on a shared disk pack. One machine is the
> primary
> > instance, and if this instance dies, a new instance is started on
> the
> > second
> > machine using the datafiles on the shared disk.
> > 
> > The problem is that I can't find anything in the Oracle docs about
> this,
> > or
> > on Meta Link.
> > 
> > I also want to know if this method of HA requires a clustered
> environment
> > (I
> > think it does, but just want to be sure)?
> > 
> > Also, does it come with an Enterprise Edition license?
> > Or is it something which each hardware vendor implements in their
> own way,
> > at extra cost?
> > 
> > We have a requirement for a fail over method on Sun Solaris.
> > We do not want to loose any committed data (i.e. a standby database
> could
> > loose some), and want the fail over to be as automatic as possible.
> > 
> > We don't want the expense of Parallel Server (Anyone know how
> expensive it
> > is these days?).
> > 
> > The disk pack is RAID, and we may also have a standby database off
> site.
> > 
> > Has anyone any recommendations?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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