what a concept... changing production passwords!

hm, I knew I liked your company as my phone provider :)


--- "Deshpande, Kirti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stephane,
>  Thanks. Yes, we are properly fenced....  
>  None of the databases have those default accounts with default
> passwords.
> We do not use OEM and that agent. Passwords of critical accounts get
> changed
> regularly and often.  Database user ids are generated & approved by
> Data
> Security group before DBAs can add them to databases (so others do
> not know
> and can not guess who has what id), and they request reports of
> access
> privileges when least expected.
>  So, it's all how you manage your set up. When I joined this company
> I was
> going nuts about such things (remote_os_authent, default links by
> virtue of
> Oracle Names etc), but as I learned the environment I was
> comfortable.. And
> it is helping us more than creating problems and concerns. 
> 
> Cheers !
> 
> - Kirti 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:20 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> "Deshpande, Kirti" wrote:
> > 
> > We use REMOTE_OS_AUTHENT in many of our databases. I know we
> shouldn't do
> > this, but we have to, and that's another topic...
> > 
> > We also use a specific auth prefix.
> > 
> > Now, can someone show me how a Windoze user, 'GOD' get in the
> database
> when
> > I do not have a user, '<Auth_Prefix>GOD' in my database.
> > 
> > I say, I have nothing to worry about this setup as long as 'GOD'
> user in
> my
> > database is controlled appropriately via roles, grants, profile
> etc....
> > 
> > Sure, if I had <auth_prefix>GOD in the database, I will be looking
> for
> > another job....
> > Right?
> > 
> > - Kirti
> > 
> 
> The problem as I see it is that it's fairly easy to get the names of
> users on a database. The number of databases you can connect to using
> dbsnmp/dbsnmp or outln/outln is desperately high, and from there you
> can
> query ALL_USERS. I must say that I am truly hopeless with any
> Microsoft
> OS, so you could safely let me with admin rights on the box when I
> feel
> at my most mischievous. But imagine I come with Linux on my laptop, I
> plug (like many 'nomad' users often do) into your network, manage to
> connect (as a less-than-nothing user), check the user list, spot
> something looking like a prefix, and use this information to add with
> linuxconf a suitably named account to my machine? I am certain that
> in
> your case everything is correctly fenced, but I have met many many
> many
> databases where the standard in terms of grants was 'TO PUBLIC', and
> where database links were PUBLIC as well, and usually connected to
> the
> other database as the owner of most tables (even as DBA).
> IMHO, if you really want to be secure, you must first know Oracle and
> your environment well, and also audit sensitive information.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephane Faroult
> Oriole Ltd
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