Hello Dennis We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers. About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be connected to our internet site. They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our regular site license cover only INTERNAL use. You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet. I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.
Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager > that > negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU > (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, > and > it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something, > I > would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise. > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:38 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Web Licensing means that you use the DB for applications that are accessed > through the internet, > NOT INTRANET. > > Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 12:08 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > > > Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based > > licensing? > > Thanks. > > Dennis Williams > > DBA > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:05 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents > > appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license > > (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but > > appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database. > > > > > > --- Stephane Faroult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Smith, Ron L." wrote: > > > > > > > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients > > > using > > > > Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient > > > licensing. > > > > We have about 100 instances to monitor. > > > > > > > > Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might > > > mean to > > > > the majority of people? > > > > > > > > We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8. > > > > > > > > Ron Smith > > > > DBA > > > > Kerr-McGee Corp > > > > > > > > > > Well, I have just been working on this for one of my customers last > > > week. The obvious thing is to query V$SESSION at regular intervals > > > (dbms_job can help) and what you can do is store the result through a > > > database link to a single instance. Where it was tricky was that we > > > wanted to identify 'system' processes (easy, except that job > > > processes > > > are marked as 'USER', which is debatable), and (that's where the snag > > > is) processes which are the results of a connection through a > > > database > > > link. The logic is that a database link is initiated by a 'normal' > > > connection - for which the full-blown licence is already paid. So > > > they > > > should not exactly count as much as regular connection; and if this > > > is > > > not a good argument, then it is probably possible to reduce their > > > number > > > by shifting around applications. Ultimately we could apply Larry's > > > favorite concept of 'single instance' (anyway I have always found DB > > > links messy). > > > My trouble was that nothing, but human knowledge, can tell whether > > > the > > > connection comes from a database link or is genuine (if somebody has > > > a > > > way, please share !). All the user information (machine, program, > > > module, action ...) comes from the initial connection and is > > > propagated. > > > I have solved this (not fully satisfactorily) by having a table > > > automatically inserted with unknown (machine, program) pairs and > > > manually updated to say 'If we see this program on this database, > > > then > > > it comes from a database link' - or 'anything coming from this > > > machine > > > must come from a database link'. Added something for connection from > > > HTTP servers, although I doubt that those will be spontaneously > > > discussed during the negotiation. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > > > > Stephane Faroult > > > Oriole Ltd > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > -- > > > Author: Stephane Faroult > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > > > Lists > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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