>From following this thread on Oracles pricing scheme I think it is dependent on the >day of the week, the phase of the moon, the number of salmon spawning in Alaska and >how many days till X-mas.
Dave -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jay: From past experience, "Named Users" refers to the users of the application, meaning for you the 911 operators. In the past, "users" referred to connections to the database. Thus an application may only have one user but several thousand connections. We had this problem when implementing CICS for Oracle on the mainframe. Even Tuxedo on client/server has this issue. These transaction monitors act as gates to the Oracle world. We had to price average usage amount to accommodate our Oracle licensing. Hope this helps. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Technical Alliance Manager Compuware Corporation Direct: (248) 865-4350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.compuware.com -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there is the Named user license and the CPU license. CPU allows an unlimited number of users. Named has a limited number of users. Now, it has always been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is. Ask 10 different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different answers. For example, we support a 911 center. An Oracle-based application displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker. If you look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by the software that displays the caller's info. The app maintains one connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen. Oracle is trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break! At best, the call takers might be the users. Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also. See http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it. Jay >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 12:30PM >>> Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation? Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US and non-US licensing? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello Dennis We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers. About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be connected to our internet site. They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our regular site license cover only INTERNAL use. You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet. I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager > that > negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU > (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, > and > it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something, > I > would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise. > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jay Hostetter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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