It seems to me that you're not dinging views per se here--you're against the dev's intended use of production data. So if those same SELECT statements that make up the view were instead baked into the crystal report file & sent anew every time the report was executed, it'd be the same problem (maybe worse, since now you're parsing the SQL & planning execution more frequently?). You buy that?
Cheers, -Roy Roy Pardee Programmer/Analyst SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT Extension 8487 -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L IMO views are often used as a substitute for creating reporting structures. Using views makes for easy report/SQL creation, but tends to be a tuning and performance nightmare. It's hard to tune, and will likely never perform well. I'm going through similar issues here right now. A number of users need to do reporting on production data. No way, no how will they be allowed to do it on the production database. It's a manufacturing database and performance is critical to this system. I've done some prototypes of the tables they need to report on. Basically a copy of the production tables in another database. Those that have a long refresh cycle ( 1+ days ) get bitmap indexes on most columns. Those that need to be close to realtime get Btree indexes instead and will be refreshed every few minutes ( refresh time pending negotiation with users :). This is not exactly a data mart as I would like to have it: no star schemas. But it's what I have time for right now, gets the reports off of production and is *much* faster to query. HTH Jared "Smith, Ron L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/02 08:18 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Anybody against using views? We have several applications that use views extensively. On the other hand there are several apps that use no views at all. We have a new developer who wants to use views when writing reports in Crystal Reports. The application administrator is leery of using views and ask the DBA group what we think. I can see several reasons to use views and a few reasons not to use them. I was just wondering what the rest of the group thought. Ron Smith DBA Kerr-McGee Corp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pardee, Roy E INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).