> I call it a data repository. I call it a data suppository... Because nobody wants it after you've stuffed in a dark place. :-)
-----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:08 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We Have the same issue here. Large Tables , loaded nightly But nobody uses them. Management calls it a Datawarehouse, I call it a data repository. Can a cusotmer find out what they need. NOPE Document your findings, to C.Y.A. Good Luck --- "Orr, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I was consulting at a particular client, I saw > the effects of this > "approach" after the fact. Massive amounts of data > were loaded into tables > that were never accessed except to load data because > the users couldn't do > anything with it. Later it was thought that to fix > this all they had to do > was send the users to training on the reporting > tool. After they spent lots > of money on training nothing changed because the > users still didn't > understand the data and couldn't do anything with > it. Meanwhile, damangement > checked off it's "accomplishment" of an objective on > the HR management > forms. I suspect that may be what you're dealing > with. After all, isn't it > more important to report that you did something that > to actually do > something worthwhile? ;-) The notion that DBA's > aren't needed and all you > have to do is load data into a relational database > and give the end users a > point and click GUI tool is foolish but not uncommon > with shortsided > damagement. > > > Steve Orr > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:48 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I've lost patience, my temper, and I'm about to quit > a job because the IT > manager has decreed that we will have "his" data > warehouse running within > 24 hours, and we will use his design. > > 1 - We are NOT to use any kind of views, not even > materailzed views. > 2 - we are not to do any computations, summaries or > rollups > 3 - we are to have everything in one table > 4 - "the" table name and column names will be > meaningful to any clerk > 5 - we are not to "start" or "snowflake" designs. > "That's just a bunch of > high power talk." > 6 - all users will be trained to use MS Access to > get at "their" > data. (These are users that were just converted off > from "green screen" > teminals within the last 45-days, to Windows 98 with > 64k RAM.) > 7 - We are not to just copy the legacy transactions. > 8 - We are to load into "an" Oracle table, all > legacy transction data > because "we don't want to limit how or what a user > will look at" > 9 - It is not necessary to talk with the users to > see what data they want > to look at, or the atomic level. "They are smart > enough to fighure this > out on their own. We just need to provide them the > data." > 10 - There shall be no long term maintenance > required by "the" dw. > > > Any ideas on how to deal with this situation? > > For tomorrow, I've done a CTAS from a materialized > view that we created to > support one departments known requirements. > > > Don > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Don > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: > (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet > access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). 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