At 36, I am the senior senior DBA here at CSX. Yet, I am the youngest of the group of 12 or so.....
Go figure! RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's a good one - I interviewed for a job THREE TIMES at a pharmaceutical company in Miami. quite a haul, but would have been a great job. I got the final call saying, They are willing to pay you $xx if you attend ONE MORE interview (people-type, I had passed all the tech interviews) and work in Downtown Miami - 50 miles away. I turned it down. I later spoke to the recruiter about it and he said I was too young for the position in their opinion. They wanted a senior dba that looked senior. I have a few grey hairs, but please! That was a first, and probably a LAST. > -----Original Message----- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:29 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Production Oracle DBA Needed in Rochester, Minnesota > > Brian - Hmm. . . let me see, you started work at 8 years old, so even with > 20 years of experience you still meet the "under 30" image they had in > mind > when they advertised the position. The nature of the questions certainly > sound slanted in that direction. But maybe I'm just being a paranoid DBA > with over 20 years experience. > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:33 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > (hope this answers your question Lisa) > > Alter session set RANT_SWITCH = ON; > > I interviewed for a DBA position there recently. I was not able to give > my > best interview because I had the worst cold I've had in several years > (cough, dizzy, slight temperature, etc.). So in there defense, and mine, > they did not see me at my best. > > My issue was with the interview questions. I must have answered 10 "what > if" personal conflict questions. It got to the point that I should have > asked "are personal conflicts a problem here". They also ask questions > like "what don't you like about your job", "what was the worst recovery > you ever had that was a bad situation", and "how do you feel about being > beeped at 3 in the morning". I don't know about you all, but I LOVE what > I > do, no recover is a bad situation when you KNOW that you have what it > takes > to do recover (both files and experience), and after 20 years in this > industry I accept and understand the requirement of the 3 in the morning > calls. Hell, some of the best fun and most rewarding things I've done > have > been a result of 3 a.m. calls. I just couldn't shake the feeling they > didn't trust or believe me. > > They also didn't ask what I consider some basic but important questions > for > any DBA. Like: How to detect, diagnose, and recover from an instance > hang; > What do you do when a user calls and says the system is slow or that they > can't connect; How to capture application SQL errors from the db side > when > the application is not providing a quality ORA-nnnnn message. > > I felt they had a bit to much of the "Best of the Best of the Best" > attitude as far as the Mayo Clinic goes. Yes they have done great work in > the field of medicine, and I commend them for that. But there are many > great medical organizations and no "one" is the best. > > Lastly, it's importaint to remember that Rochester is a company town. > About 85,000 people live there. And from what I gathered, 25,000 of them > work for Mayo. If you go there be prepared to think, live, breath, and > die > (at) Mayo. > > As Dennis Miller says "that's just my opinion I could be wrong " > > I wish them well. > > > Alter session set RANT_SWITCH = OFF; > > Brian P. MacLean > Oracle DBA, OCP8i > > > > > > "Koivu, Lisa" > > <lisa.koivu@efair To: > "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > field.com> > "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > > 03/22/02 09:09 AM Subject: RE: Production > Oracle DBA Needed in Rochester, > Minnesota > > > > > > > > Brian, you can't say that and not say why... is the Mayo a sweatshop? > Please do share, even if it's off the list. I used to live in Minneapolis > and miss it terribly. > > Lisa Koivu > Oracle Database Baby Oven. > Fairfield Resorts, Inc. > Ft. Lauderdale, FL > 954-935-4117 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:03 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Re: Production Oracle DBA Needed in Rochester, > Minnesota > > > > > > Can you say "Mayo Clinic"......Be afraid, be very afraid (IMAO) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OraStaff > > > > <orastaff@minds To: Multiple recipients of > > list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > pring.com> cc: > > > > Sent by: Subject: Production Oracle > > DBA Needed in Rochester, Minnesota > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > m > > > > > > > > > > > > 03/22/02 05:23 > > > > AM > > > > Please respond > > > > to ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Position: Oracle DBA > > Location: Rochester, Minnesota > > Salary Range: 65-75K- maybe more > > > > Description: > > This client company-a leader in its' field, needs an Oracle DBA to > provide > > database support. > > This position includes support of all aspects of the Oracle relational > > database product (ASE) > > on primarily SUN Unix platforms. > > > > The key is depth of production database experience (as opposed > > to development), knowledge of core Oracle infrastructure and the pieces > > that make up the instances. > > > > Tasks will include, but are not limited to: capacity planning, > > installation, upgrading, monitoring, performance and tuning, responding > to > > trouble calls, > > writing administrative scripts in Unix shell languages and SQL/PL-SQL, > > backup and recovery, > > and maintaining security in the institution's Oracle environments. > > Sharing a 24x7 on-call rotation with the other members of the team is > also > > expected. > > This is an interesting position with a solid organization with terrific > > benefits. > > *They need a Production DBA not an Development side DBA. > > > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third > parties > > please. > > > > Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or > need > > sponsorship. > > > > Requirements: > > *Bachelor's degree in computer science, related field or equivalent > > experience. > > *Three or more years of supporting a multi-server Oracle environment. > > *Strong analytical and problem solving skills. > > *Demonstrated proficiency with the HP or SUN Unix operating system. > > *Replication is not required but a big plus. > > * Must be a U.S. citizen or perm. resident with excellent English. > > > > For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment > > to: > > > > OraStaff, Inc. > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Phone: 1-800-549-8502. (*Please do not call if you need sponsorship) > > Please Use Job Code: One/DBA/Rochester/Diane > > > > I pay referral fees. > > So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be > > qualified/interested > > in the > > posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. > > Thanks, > > Bill Law > > > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: OraStaff > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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