> I'm a hard changing fool
Don't you mean hard chaRging?
Steve Orr, where the hard charging buffalo DBA's roam... Bozeman, Montana
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Don't know Dennis. They said I was qualified for the position, but that
there might be a personality conflict (kind of ironic isn't it). I admit,
I'm a hard changing fool, but only because I'm passionate about what I do.
Funny thing too, the majority of the best people I've worked with and
learned the most from are people others found hard to work with. Oh well,
things always work out the way they do for a reason. I myself ended up
with a job at the company I wanted anyway.
Brian P. MacLean
Oracle DBA, OCP8i
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Brian - Hmm. . . let me see, you started work at 8 years old, so even with
20 years of experience you still meet the "under 30" image they had in mind
when they advertised the position. The nature of the questions certainly
sound slanted in that direction. But maybe I'm just being a paranoid DBA
with over 20 years experience.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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(hope this answers your question Lisa)
Alter session set RANT_SWITCH = ON;
I interviewed for a DBA position there recently. I was not able to give my
best interview because I had the worst cold I've had in several years
(cough, dizzy, slight temperature, etc.). So in there defense, and mine,
they did not see me at my best.
My issue was with the interview questions. I must have answered 10 "what
if" personal conflict questions. It got to the point that I should have
asked "are personal conflicts a problem here". They also ask questions
like "what don't you like about your job", "what was the worst recovery
you ever had that was a bad situation", and "how do you feel about being
beeped at 3 in the morning". I don't know about you all, but I LOVE what I
do, no recover is a bad situation when you KNOW that you have what it takes
to do recover (both files and experience), and after 20 years in this
industry I accept and understand the requirement of the 3 in the morning
calls. Hell, some of the best fun and most rewarding things I've done have
been a result of 3 a.m. calls. I just couldn't shake the feeling they
didn't trust or believe me.
They also didn't ask what I consider some basic but important questions for
any DBA. Like: How to detect, diagnose, and recover from an instance hang;
What do you do when a user calls and says the system is slow or that they
can't connect; How to capture application SQL errors from the db side when
the application is not providing a quality ORA-nnnnn message.
I felt they had a bit to much of the "Best of the Best of the Best"
attitude as far as the Mayo Clinic goes. Yes they have done great work in
the field of medicine, and I commend them for that. But there are many
great medical organizations and no "one" is the best.
Lastly, it's importaint to remember that Rochester is a company town.
About 85,000 people live there. And from what I gathered, 25,000 of them
work for Mayo. If you go there be prepared to think, live, breath, and die
(at) Mayo.
As Dennis Miller says "that's just my opinion I could be wrong "
I wish them well.
Alter session set RANT_SWITCH = OFF;
Brian P. MacLean
Oracle DBA, OCP8i
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Brian, you can't say that and not say why... is the Mayo a sweatshop?
Please do share, even if it's off the list. I used to live in Minneapolis
and miss it terribly.
Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Baby Oven.
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
954-935-4117
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> Position: Oracle DBA
> Location: Rochester, Minnesota
> Salary Range: 65-75K- maybe more
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> Description:
> This client company-a leader in its' field, needs an Oracle DBA to
provide
> database support.
> This position includes support of all aspects of the Oracle relational
> database product (ASE)
> on primarily SUN Unix platforms.
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> The key is depth of production database experience (as opposed
> to development), knowledge of core Oracle infrastructure and the pieces
> that make up the instances.
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> Tasks will include, but are not limited to: capacity planning,
> installation, upgrading, monitoring, performance and tuning, responding
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> trouble calls,
> writing administrative scripts in Unix shell languages and SQL/PL-SQL,
> backup and recovery,
> and maintaining security in the institution's Oracle environments.
> Sharing a 24x7 on-call rotation with the other members of the team is
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> This is an interesting position with a solid organization with terrific
> benefits.
> *They need a Production DBA not an Development side DBA.
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> This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties
> please.
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> Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or
need
> sponsorship.
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> Requirements:
> *Bachelor's degree in computer science, related field or equivalent
> experience.
> *Three or more years of supporting a multi-server Oracle environment.
> *Strong analytical and problem solving skills.
> *Demonstrated proficiency with the HP or SUN Unix operating system.
> *Replication is not required but a big plus.
> * Must be a U.S. citizen or perm. resident with excellent English.
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> For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment
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> Please Use Job Code: One/DBA/Rochester/Diane
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> I pay referral fees.
> So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
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> posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
> Thanks,
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