Sundeep 
        Oops, egg on my face. Reading too fast, seeing one word and thinking
another. My understanding from "Stop Defragmenting and Start Living" was
that uniform extents was the direction Oracle was heading. The problem with
autoallocate is that you can end up with fragmented tablespaces and
therefore have to reorganize them from time to time. You end up with free
spaces of varying sizes. With uniform extents you can't have fragmentation
because all the extents are exactly the same size.  The down side is that
you may waste a bit more space because a small table may have more space
allocated than it needs. Also you must get beyond the myth that a good table
is all in one extent. Based on the above, I opted for uniform extents and
have been pleased with the results. However, if someone has some strong
arguments for autoallocate, I would be interested in hearing them. Hopefully
this time I have responded to your question. Let me know.

I went to http://www.google.com and searched for Oracle Autoallocate. Here
is a link I found:

http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/ch_08.html
With autoallocate tablespaces, you may get a fairly random scattering of
64K, 1MB, 8MB or 64MB depending on the demand and the current state of the
tablespace.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dennis,

I mentioned Autoallocate and not autoextend.  I have
been using LMTs for over a year now but only with
UNIFORM extent sizes.  I am not sure if I am ready to
handover space management to Oracle (via Autoallocate
which is being foisted upon me as a panecea of all
ills) least I have evaluated the pros and cons. The
stuff in Manual and technet I have reveiwed so far
doesn't give you enough information like how much
space is wated in Autoallocate vs Uniform extent
sizes. How does Oracle decide to allocate an extent
for an Insert or an Update in Autoallocate option and
how does it decide on the extent size?

So far I have looked at SQLRef, Concepts manual and
technet. Any other pointers?

TIA
Sundeep



--- DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sundeep - Start by reading the classic paper "How to
> Stop Defragmenting and
> Start Living" at this link:
>
http://www.dbatoolbox.com/WP2001/spacemgmt/defrag.htm
> 
> Actually, autoallocate and uniform extents work very
> well together. But you
> need to understand the concepts behind them first.
> And make sure your
> application doesn't use up all your disk space if
> you autoallocate.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:54 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Can someone point me to good reading material on
> this
> subject. Is one better than the other for
> performance
> and manageability?
> 
> Syntactically the autoallocate is shorter and seems
> to
> be more hands off (does that mean worry free also?).
>  
> 
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> =====
> 
> Sundeep Maini 
> Consultant 
> Currently on Assignement at Marshfield Clinic WI 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards®
> http://movies.yahoo.com/
> -- 
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
> http://www.orafaq.com
> -- 
> Author: sundeep maini
>   INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX:
> (858) 538-5051
> San Diego, California        -- Public Internet
> access / Mailing Lists
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------
> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an
> E-Mail message
> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of
> 'ListGuru') and in
> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB
> ORACLE-L
> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed
> from).  You may
> also send the HELP command for other information
> (like subscribing).
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
> http://www.orafaq.com
> --
> Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
>   INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX:
> (858) 538-5051
> San Diego, California        -- Public Internet
> access / Mailing Lists
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------
> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an
> E-Mail message
> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of
> 'ListGuru') and in
> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB
> ORACLE-L
> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed
> from).  You may
> also send the HELP command for other information
> (like subscribing).


=====

Sundeep Maini 
Consultant 
Currently on Assignement at Marshfield Clinic WI 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards®
http://movies.yahoo.com/
-- 
Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
-- 
Author: sundeep maini
  INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051
San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
--------------------------------------------------------------------
To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
--
Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
--
Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
  INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051
San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
--------------------------------------------------------------------
To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).

Reply via email to