its not a unix processor versus intel processor, i think its more a OS decision.
I run all of my stuff on intel processors, just linux not windoze :) joe Mogens Nørgaard wrote: > Maybe it's time to provoke a bit :-). > > Situation: I'm sitting here in Steve Adams' house (about 7 meters away > from the IxOra server, which is SO small - just like the LITTLE > mermaid in Copenhagen - very disappointing), and Anjo, Cary, Jonathan > and the rest have gone to bed. > > Whiskies available on the oak table: Bowmore and Ardbeg. > > Provocative Thoughts (aimed at generating discussion, please): > Basically a P4 processor can run circles round a Unix processor today > (in other words: Unix processors are loosing the battle). A customer > today would get most bang for the buck by bying Intel instead of Unix > processors. The problem, of course, is that you can only choose > between Windows and Linux on the Intel platform. If - this is no > longer a choice - you could choose Solaris on Intel, you would get so > much bang for the buck that nothing could compete with it. If Intel > could handle many processors that would be interesting, too. > > I think Unix processors are dying. I didn't like it when VMS died > (because it's the best operating system that was ever built). But it > died. Now what? > > Mogens > > Hemant K Chitale wrote: > >>Aah ! You _are_ looking at moving out of NT. >>Why I don't think it is an enterprise class platform >> >> 1. Much poorer memory management [2GB, memory leaks etc] >>than Unix. >> 2. Cannot scale beyond 4 CPUs. >>I AM surprised that you run a 450 users SAP >>application on 4CPU, 2GB on NT. Try that with >>Oracle Applications ! >> 3. Any patch (e.g. the security patches that come out >>from Microsoft) requires a reboot of the server. I can >>understand OS patches requiring a Unix reboot but a >>patch to MSIE/Outlook/IIS on the same NT-box as the >>database requiring a reboot of the server ? Unacceptable. >> 4. I don't know how good Online Backups are on NT. >> >>Hemant K Chitale >>http://hkchital.tripod.com >>----- Original Message ----- >>To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L@fa >>tcity.com> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Saturday, 25 May, 2002 4:33 AM >> >> >>>1) Not pulling any legs. That's what we run. >>> >>>2) We have a few reasons to switch to another platform. >>>I'm lobbying for Solaris with Veritas Database Edition. Many >>>good reasons for doing so, but I'm beginning to have my >>>doubts about financing it. >>> >>>One of our current projects is to put in place an enterprise >>>class backup and recovery system. The current one is lacking >>>in several respects. >>> >>>One of damagement's questions: "What happens if we do nothing?" >>> >>>Another was "What's the ROI?" >>> >>>PHB's abound. >>> >>>Jared >>> >>>On Friday 24 May 2002 08:03, Hemant K Chitale wrote: >>> >>>>No way ! You're pulling a lot of legs >>>>[and hurting a lot of egos who take pride in >>>>pointing out that NT is _not_ an enterprise-class >>>>platform, me included]. >>>> >>>>Hemant K Chitale >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Sent: Friday, 24 May, 2002 8:00 AM >>>> >>>>>How about 250 Gig, 450 users on SAP 4.0B? >>>>> >>>>>4 Cpu's 2 Gig Ram. >>>>> >>>>>Stop making me defend NT!! >>>>> >>>>>Jared >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Disser, Arno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>05/23/2002 10:23 AM >>>>>Please respond to ORACLE-L >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>>>> >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>>> cc: >>>>> Subject: RE: so when did you switch from NT to unix for >>>>> >>>>oracle >>>> >>>>>Here are my 0.02EUR >>>>> >>>>>Turn this reasoning around: Why would anyone use NT for a serious >>>>> >>Oracle >> >>>>>DB-server? >>>>>Okay, for some minor development perhaps, but for an production >>>>>environment? >>>>> >>>>>b.t.w., ever considered a switch to VMS? >>>>> >>>>>Arno Disser >>>>>-- >>>>>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >>>>>-- >>>>>Author: Disser, Arno >>>>> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >>>>>San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists >>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >>>>>to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (note EXACT spelling of >'ListGuru') and in >>>>>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >>>>>(or the name of mailing list you >>>>>want to be removed from). 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