Unfortunately, I, and all of us, have seen the
Pentium
processors in MS-NT/2K.
The general opinion of Pentium/P4 is in the
context
of MS operating systems. And these don't
perform
as well as *nix.
Hemant K Chitale
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 May, 2002 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: so when did you switch from
NT to unix for oracle
Maybe it's time to provoke a bit :-).
Situation: I'm
sitting here in Steve Adams' house (about 7 meters away from the IxOra server,
which is SO small - just like the LITTLE mermaid in Copenhagen - very
disappointing), and Anjo, Cary, Jonathan and the rest have gone to bed.
Whiskies available on the oak table: Bowmore and Ardbeg.
Provocative Thoughts (aimed at generating discussion, please):
Basically a P4 processor can run circles round a Unix processor today (in
other words: Unix processors are loosing the battle). A customer today would
get most bang for the buck by bying Intel instead of Unix processors. The
problem, of course, is that you can only choose between Windows and Linux on
the Intel platform. If - this is no longer a choice - you could choose Solaris
on Intel, you would get so much bang for the buck that nothing could compete
with it. If Intel could handle many processors that would be interesting,
too.
I think Unix processors are dying. I didn't like it when VMS died
(because it's the best operating system that was ever built). But it died. Now
what?
Mogens
Hemant K Chitale wrote:
Aah ! You _are_ looking at moving out of NT. Why I don't think it is an enterprise class platform
1. Much poorer memory management [2GB, memory leaks etc] than Unix. 2. Cannot scale beyond 4 CPUs. I AM surprised that you run a 450 users SAP application on 4CPU, 2GB on NT. Try that with Oracle Applications ! 3. Any patch (e.g. the security patches that come out from Microsoft) requires a reboot of the server. I can understand OS patches requiring a Unix reboot but a patch to MSIE/Outlook/IIS on the same NT-box as the database requiring a reboot of the server ? Unacceptable. 4. I don't know how good Online Backups are on NT.
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1) Not pulling any legs. That's what we run.
2) We have a few reasons to switch to another platform. I'm lobbying for Solaris with Veritas Database Edition. Many good reasons for doing so, but I'm beginning to have my doubts about financing it.
One of our current projects is to put in place an enterprise class backup and recovery system. The current one is lacking in several respects.
One of damagement's questions: "What happens if we do nothing?"
Another was "What's the ROI?"
PHB's abound.
Jared
On Friday 24 May 2002 08:03, Hemant K Chitale wrote:
No way ! You're pulling a lot of legs [and hurting a lot of egos who take pride in pointing out that NT is _not_ an enterprise-class platform, me included].
Hemant K Chitale
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How about 250 Gig, 450 users on SAP 4.0B?
4 Cpu's 2 Gig Ram.
Stop making me defend NT!!
Jared
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Here are my 0.02EUR
Turn this reasoning around: Why would anyone use NT for a serious
Oracle
DB-server? Okay, for some minor development perhaps, but for an production environment?
b.t.w., ever considered a switch to VMS?
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