HP-UX allocates as required these are limit values, if I remember rightly 
there is a slight memory overhead with some of these parameters, it is in 
the order of 1 MB supports all values or some such, it is negligible 
however it still exists. I think maxprocs is the culprit as it builds an 
empty linked list, hash table or some such to manage the procs up to the 
max value.


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John,
 That's a splendid idea. I forgot about it.. 

 Thanks.

- Kirti 

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Vivek,

Just to add a simple way of determining the extent of overflow, you could
use the sar -v command. This will also display other OS counters as well.

00:00:02  proc-sz   ov  inod-sz   ov  file-sz   ov  lock-sz 
00:20:02  435/2580   0 4641/8816   0 7593/16884   0   25/33168

In fact, I would first check this out before adding a new database on any
server, and use the SHM-modifications-reboot to change these as well.

As per my understanding, Solaris defines an upper limit for these values,
but doesn't allocate space until required, so you are Ok to define larger
values without bulking up OS memory requirements. Anyone knows what 
happens
in HP-UX?

John Kanagaraj
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Deshpande, Kirti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:28 PM
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>
>Vivek,
>You are right, this is an OS related issue, but a DBA must be 
>aware of why
>it happens ;) 
>
>Error 23 means 'File Table Overflow' and it is generated when 
>the system
>wide limit for the number of simultaneously open files is 
>exceeded. It is
>controlled by a kernel parameter 'nfile'. which defaults to a 
>value arrived
>at by a formula that uses 'maxusers' (and a couple of other) kernel
>parameters. You can check the values set for 'maxusers' and 
>'nfile' on these
>servers, and get your SA to increase those on the server where 
>you had a
>problem starting the database. 
>
>Use '/usr/sbin/kmtune -q <parameter>' command to check 
>currently set value
>for 'nfile' and 'maxusers'. 
>
>Read more about 'nfile' at
>http://docs.hp.com/hpux/onlinedocs/os/KCparam.Nfile.html.
>
>HTH,
>
>- Kirti 
>
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